He's buying the car. It costs over $1M. He can do whatever he wants. Actually, it looks like he's feeling if the material is plastic.
It feeds air to the engine in a somewhat unique way. The door was not supposed to be opened tonight as there were way too many people at the event to ensure that photos were not taken of the inside, but Frank is Frank and Jay Leno is Jay Leno, so the door was opened for a VERY brief period of time. The young guy in the McLaren shirt with the look of fear in his eyes was trying to close it as quick as he could. >8^) ER
It took an extra day due to logistics, but I am thrilled to say the answer to this question is now a 'Yes' and it is pretty fantastic inside. The interior is all business with every surface in carbon or alcantara. It looks spectacular and there are some really neat things going on in there. Just like the exterior of P1, which has many little details that look interesting from different angles, the interior does the same. I can't really explain it with specifics as I've been asked not to but it won't disappoint! Anyone who is hoping for a plush GT interior is going to have to hope McLaren develop that as an option. There is some familiarity from the 12C in width of the sills and centralized placement of the TWO seats, but it is still a very unique environment - you would struggle to confuse the two. There will be lots of ways to dress it up for the customer who has to have it just so to suit their tastes too. Before you ask, the moratorium on photos is still in place for the interior so none were taken. Not even a shot to prove I was in there, but I have no reason to fib. It was an honor to be invited in given that there were few in attendance tonight who even had the chance to peek inside. I happened to stick around until after the car was pushed off the stage, the lights were out and 98% of people had left. I was not expecting to see the interior, but just wanted to thank the hosts once again before leaving and then I was surprised by the offer. They take good care of me when they can. Best moment of the night was being called over by Frank Stephenson so I could show Jay Leno some of the pictures on my phone of the Blue P1 renderings I have been creating recently. >8^) ER
My album of photos from last evening's P1 event in Beverly Hills is now up on Flickr. I have just finished running through it adding some captions - you can view it by clicking on the link below. http://www.flickr.com/photos/peloton25/sets/72157632553810881/ Not much in the way of "new" pictures as far as things people won't have seen, but there are two shots showing one of the roof flaps open which houses fillers for different fluids in the car. I think that is a great idea for reducing additional access panels on the painted sections of the bodywork. >8^) ER Image Unavailable, Please Login
The best pictures of P1 to date. You sure know how to use that camera. Great looks at all the little details. You need to crop out the dust with that lens. Wow. It is going to be a new project putting fuel in P1. Nice job on the link and pic's Erik.
How does an all CF front and rear bumper pass the required US 5 MPH crash test? That looks like 30 grand worth of damage if you prang it.
love the pictures in this thread. The honeycomb tail insert on the P1 lookes wicked. That ratchet socket is gigantic, safer handling it with a steel toe boot.
Doesn't matter the cost to repair, what matters is the amount of damage (or lack thereof) to critical systems in low speed impacts. If you care to read the regulation in complete detail you can do so here: 49 CFR 581 : BUMPER STANDARD [ 49 CFR 581 ] : (TRANSPORTATION [ 49 CFR ]) >8^) ER
Interesting. I thought it had to have no damage up to 5 mph to be legal for use in the US. A lady in a Tahoe backs into you and the bill runs $85K. Oh well!
Actually in 1983 the 5 mph standard in the USA was relaxed down to 2.5 mph for frontal impacts and 3 mph for corner impacts. The rear impact standard has remained unchanged at 2.5 mph since the laws went into effect back in 1971. Canada had adopted similar regulations somewhere along the way which were not lowered to match our standards until 2009. That explains why many of the bumpers on cars sold in the USA still met the 5 mph standard as automakers did not want to produce two different cars for both countries. Since our revised 2.5 mph standard matched the European standards, in some cases (like with my MR2 Spyder or the Lancer Evolution) we got the Euro-bumpered car and Canada got nothing. There were also cases where we got the 2.5 mph car and Canada got something different, but off the top of my head I can't think of an example. >8^) ER
Do you think your 458 would survive a 2.5mph hit with less damage? Same lady backing into an Enzo would be unlikely to do less damage - and that is a US compliant car As Erik points out the standard was relaxed to 2.5mph. I personally think the 2.5mph rule is one of the greatest examples of the law of unintended consequences... it was sold as "safety" but it isn't (doesn't have any impact), it was meant to save costs by limiting the impact of nudging another car... but now everyone in the US thinks that nudging another is harmless... so they do more!!! /thread drift Erik - thanks for the fantastic photos
Yes. Let's face it, these hyper cars are hyper expensive to repair if damaged. I think the 2.5 MPH standard was driving not by safety but by the insurance companies who were under fire for drastically raising prices over the years. So, they lobbied for the 5 MPH standard (I guess it's 2.5 now) to reduce costs of fender benders. But, it has nothing to do with safety. My point is that's a huge piece of CF in the front of that car and for sure, it would cost a ton to replace. I'm curious if it's a Euro-spec car and if the US models will be different for that reason.
From all the reports of bugs and issues still ongoing with their 12C model......... I can't even begin to imagine how many problems this thing will be saddled with. It's a bit of a shame.
I'd say your not quite up to date with the current cars. I read every post that is made on McLaren Life - even in the private section where comments are more candid - and owners are pretty thrilled with the cars now that the most recent update with additional power, updated transmission calibration and implementation of the IRIS navigation system are on their cars. Bob - the bodywork on P1 conforms to all worldwide regulations - the car will look the same no matter where it is sold in the world. I know of one small item that will differ between markets given our need for a front side marker/reflector but that won't affect the bodywork. >8^) ER
Hey... thanks for that info! I didn't know it met world wide regulations. Impressive. And, I'm with you on 12c issues. The cars seems pretty reliable. However, I'm still concerned about how quickly owners resell them. There's not that many 2012's in the US and quite a few for sale in ratio to what's come in. On the plus side, it looks like the average Mac owner drives his car more than your average Fcar owner in the first year.
None allowed - none taken. I can't even draw you a picture. It's worth waiting for though. It should be what most people are expecting - there's nothing out of this world going on inside, but the execution is quite excellent and I believe most who are intending to purchase will feel right at home. >8^) ER
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Does anyone here know what the battery pack weighs and what the electric motor weighs? I think I would rather have a P1 without the added weight and forgo the extra HP.
