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Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by Webber45, Feb 21, 2013.

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  1. Webber45

    Webber45 Karting

    Oct 2, 2011
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    #1 Webber45, Feb 21, 2013
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  2. Noblesse Oblige

    Noblesse Oblige F1 Veteran

    Nov 7, 2011
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    No. Southern California here... another day in paradise. :)
     
  3. kylepetree

    kylepetree Karting

    Oct 1, 2012
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    Kyle Petree
    I can feel your pain, I am ready for winter to be over! We had a few nice days where it was in the 40º-50ºF range which was a relief but now it's back in to the low 20s and snowing!
     
  4. RickLederman

    RickLederman F1 Rookie
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    No pain here, look at the FF area for my video yesterday driving my FF through a strong snow squall :). SottoZeros are mandatory though! If I only had a 458 I would have SottoZeros for the winter here in NW Ohio and drive it every day ... except the days when the snow is too deep.

    Rick
     
  5. GNALUZU

    GNALUZU Formula Junior

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    #5 GNALUZU, Feb 21, 2013
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  6. mrizkallah23

    mrizkallah23 Formula 3

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    accept for the traffic, smog and the gangsters killing each other....your right, truly paradise!
     
  7. RickLederman

    RickLederman F1 Rookie
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    +1:D
     
  8. RickLederman

    RickLederman F1 Rookie
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    I've been in Tucson with the Air National Guard when it looked like that!

    Rick
     
  9. kylepetree

    kylepetree Karting

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    Rick, you're more than welcome to buy me a set of SottoZeros for my Aston ;) I'd drive it in the snow then. I'd just have to avoid Ken or I'd get an ear full.
     
  10. Mugatu

    Mugatu Karting

    Apr 8, 2012
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    Southern California is more than just LA.
     
  11. HK boy

    HK boy Formula Junior

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    +1.

    Even with all the regulations and income taxes, it is worth it to live in paradise everyday.
     
  12. Webber45

    Webber45 Karting

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    Ok, next station for my family and me: Southern California!!!

    Regards - Webber45
     
  13. HK boy

    HK boy Formula Junior

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    #13 HK boy, Feb 21, 2013
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    It looks like this 300 days out of the year, temperature on the coast is 65F +- 10F all year long.
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  14. Noblesse Oblige

    Noblesse Oblige F1 Veteran

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    Yes... (tongue in cheek), not to mention the overtaxation, overregulation, and inept government, and...er... certain odd types of people, though smog is basically nonexistent outside the LA basin. :)
     
  15. Noblesse Oblige

    Noblesse Oblige F1 Veteran

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    Looks like global warming hit.
     
  16. HK boy

    HK boy Formula Junior

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    Yes California is horrible, please don't come over, it is already over populated and already have enough Ferrari here :) (On a good sunny weekend day, I hear one scream by my house every 20 minutes).
     
  17. Migas

    Migas Formula Junior

    Feb 18, 2013
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    My pain is not the weather conditions. In Lisbon we have always nice and friendly weather. Even over winter. My pain is another. Better saying I have to pay 318k euros (about 420k USD) for ordering my brand new 458 spider. Portugal is now the perfect world madness paradigma on taxes. But happy anyway for order it. Sorry guys for my poor english. I'm portuguese. So, please dont be too hard with me! All the best for all Ferrari lovers.
     
  18. Webber45

    Webber45 Karting

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    Prices are appr. the same in Austria. 320K Euro you have to pay for a Spider with medium range of options. Round about 20% more than in Germany. Bandits ....

    Dont think about! Be happy to be able to finance it and enjoy!

    Regards - Webber45
     
  19. Mugatu

    Mugatu Karting

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    At least its not Singapore or Australia right? Look on the bright side!
     
  20. racerdj

    racerdj F1 Veteran
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    I have similar pain!
     
  21. Noblesse Oblige

    Noblesse Oblige F1 Veteran

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    The difference between your pain and the guys with bad weather is that the weather will get better; taxes will only get worse. We in the US are working hard to catch up with you.
     
  22. Sir_Ferrari

    Sir_Ferrari F1 Rookie
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    Yes, because you must pay in Austria for cars which cost more than 50.000 € 20% luxury tax. Have I said it right?
     
  23. gilly6993

    gilly6993 F1 Rookie

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    Pain is getting my new 458 and waiting for another snow storm....
     
  24. PhilNotHill

    PhilNotHill Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Buy a 458 Spider in Scottsdale...temp in the 70s.
    Fly down and drive it.
    Fly home and have the car shipped back.

    No problemo. :cool:
     
  25. Webber45

    Webber45 Karting

    Oct 2, 2011
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    No, it is because of a special tax, called NOVA, which is connected with the fuel-consumption and adds 16% on the price. Than there is 20% VAT, what is in Germany f.e. 19%, in Switzerland I think only 7%. Last but not least you have to pay a special CO2-tax what adds another 3 or 4% (I dont know exactly). It depends from the CO2-output of the car.

    Austria is just a small country but has to feed a lot of politicans!
     

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