THE F70 (LaFerrari) Thread

That seems to contradict what several others (who have seen the real car) are reporting.

All the best,
Andrew.

 

How about around F1 tracks? Think F70 will be below 1:45 at Barcelona?

 

yes, i've heard 1,34 and nurburgring in 5 min, now do you are in love with f 150????

 

for many peolple here
THIS IS ONLY A JOKE...

 

I think most important is on which car would an average driver be fastest. I'd think 918 is the easiest.

 

Really?

 

Hehehe you know what i mean

 

Interesting thought.

 

+1. The reason why Jim comes across as angry, frustrated and dismissive of Ferrari these days is because while he was building his P4/5 racecar, he asked Ferrari to supply him with parts and they said "no" and refused to supply his team with any spare parts. Jim talked about it here when it happened and he made it clear that he was not happy with Ferrari.

Jim has not been invited to buy an F70 and he has NOT seen the car. It's a funny thing, no matter how much money Jim has in the bank (and it's A LOT) he will never be able to buy an F70 from Ferrari. They will never sell him one. Never.

He's turned to McLaren and they've welcomed him with open arms (in the hope that they'll see some $$$ in return) and now he spends his days trawling through Ferrari Chat and Jalopnik talking about how much better the P1 is than the F70, despite knowing no more than the rest of us about the F70. He's become obsessed with lap times recently, to the point where he'll post about the same times at every single opportunity, prompted or not.

He's become a very, very bitter person. Most people that post in this thread have grown tired of hearing about his personal vendetta with Ferrari, his P4/5 and his obsession with Nurburgring times. No doubt that it will only get worse after Tuesday.

 

+1!

 

Well, everyone has their own allegiance - yours is also obvious by your avatar.

I suppose that next we're going to have Ron himself sic the "News of the World" journos on ChalStrad to dig up some more unsavory details to discredit him further ;-)

 

As posted 2 weeks ago

Production estimates cut from 500 to "a hopeful 375"? Surely people should be cancelling their F70 orders and lining up to buy this wonderful machine?? Have they not heard about Jim's Nurburgring predictions??

$1,150,000 x 125 = $143,750,000. Wow.

Not the best start for the P1. I still don't believe they'll reach their new goal of 375 to be honest.

"You come at the king, you best not miss"

 

It's difficult to discuss the relative importance of a new flagship Ferrari without first placing it in the context of its contemporary rivals. As such, extolling the virtues or highlighting the limitations of efforts by competitors such as McLaren are very relevant to the debate.

All the best,
Andrew.

 

Jim, p4/5c was able to lap the ring in 6,51, and it as around 570 hp rigth. Of course this was in race configuration, i belive that for road use you had to make a few changes. So how fast do you think it could lap the ring in road configuration? And, if you add to it a couple of turbos, making it produce the same amount of power as a P1 wouldn´t it be faster than the Mac?

 

And that is his version of the story...as always there are 2 sides....

Then don't forget his frustration with his P3/4 (ex Piper) that cannot be certified as it is a copy of a car that was completely destroyed (by fire)....

Thank goodness he has a ton of money and I am sure Anthony Sheriff will do his utmost to relieve him of some of it!!!

 

Then don't forget his frustration with his P3/4 (ex Piper) that cannot be certified as it is a copy of a car that was completely destroyed (by fire)....

I wouldn´t say completly since i belive he had the original chassis and engine!!

 

Methinks this thread is going to get worse before it gets better.

 

Let's get this back onto the topic of the cars themselves, folks.

All the best,
Andrew.

 

On the Ring Downforce is very important and we have 2800lb vs P1's 1300lb and my P1 6:55 guess is based on talking with them and them saying that they would be "close" to our time. P1 of course will have more HP.

In road trim P 4/5 C will have about 100 more HP than it did when we ran 6:51 and weigh about 150 lbs less around 2800lb. There are street legal tires that are very close to the tires we were running when we ran 6:51 so I don't see that as more than a few seconds if that. We also really improved F/R since our 6:51 and my guess in street legal form would be below 6:45.

As for turbos our next race project will likely be a factory effort and will use a TT V8 (Not McLaren). Our next road car will also be TT and may use that engine or a smaller one.

 

Yep. People seem to really get their panties in a bunch (about comparisons) and decide to throw gas on the fire rather than let it burn itself out.

 

Wait, wait, the best is coming!

 

back on topic, I saw the car in maranello last friday.

certain design features resemble the p1, especially the side and rear treatment, they are all going with the curve in coke bottle profile and diffuser heavy rear end.

The new enzo styling did not wow me, i expected it to look the way it did.

I am more impressed by the technology especially with the chassis engineering which is done in their F1 racing composite departments, the carbon fiber chassis is not made on a normal production line but in the F1 racing department, so many pieces are hand laid and there are different spec carbon fiber and even kevlar for different sections of the car.

800hp from NA v12 (f12 block with over 100+ different tweaks), aventador only produces 700hp from their na v12. kers good for another 150hp, full torque at 1000 rpm. hence powertrain wise it is very impressive. I think P1 is mistake with similiar engine as mp412c (remember the jag xj220 debacle?)

dual clutch 7 speed gearbox. very small interior like the mp412c. side mirrors are cool, just like the challenge stradale units

gullwing doors, front lifting mechanism, there are no seats, instead where the seat normal is there is curvature then they stick moulded cushions, steering wheel and pedals move, there is no seat to move.

No brainer, i would take the new enzo over the p1 and 918 solely due to the fact it is a ferrari and the company behind the car.

 

The point in asking you this is the fact that the numbers presented by Mclaren seem to be amazing, out of this world but, fact is, if we pick your car (and probably others like the r8 lm for example wich i belive could easily become road legal), we have a lot of cars that can be as quick if not quicker than the p1 or the f150. So, aren´t all these supercars a bit pointless? I mean, if Ferrari pick a 458 gt2 and made it street legal with a bit more power wouldn´t it be faster around the track than the f150?
What i mean is, these supercars must be more than just "trackspeed" or they simply don´t make any sence. P4/5 as become an icon not for his performances (wich i´m pretty sure are amnazing) but most of all because of it looks.

 

oh yeah, performance,

0-100kmh sub 3sec

0-200kmh- 7 sec

Those are quicker figures than anyone truly needs.

 

Thanks, finaly some acurate data!!!