THE F70 (LaFerrari) Thread

I agree that both P1 and F70 have a "diffuser heavy rear end". What did you think of the nose especially the radiator treatment? I'm so so on that.

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Yes, and if we consider that so many people already saw the car and specs!

 

Normal seats wouldn't have added that much weight, so why all the fuss ??

 

there is an other teaser!
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the large front mesh intake under the nose is too wide and unadorn. looked very old school like a mazda rx7 imsa front spolier

It looks like a big mouth and will do well scooping up all pebbles, leaves and debris. painting that front nose will be a monthly maintenance item.

I think the P1 did a better job on the front nose and integration of headlights. The f150 headlights were not that special, think they similiar as 458.

 

So you needed 345 pages to realize that??

 

Meh. If you have enough money to buy any of these cars, you have enough to invest $30K in learning how to drive much better than 'average'. The folks who buy them for show 'n shine or a life under a car cover, will never explore their performance envelope, so it doesn't matter. Those of us who are actually going to drive them are not average drivers.

So, my personal hope is that like the 458 the F150 is designed to allow a skilled amateur to close the laptime gap with a pro driver. We'll know in a few months ...

 

Are you saying the car is not drop dead gorgeous ???
Please tell us if it looks better than the P1.

 

I believe that is the only way buying these cars will ever make any sense, and i´m pretty sure that´s what theyr intended to be used .

 

In the case of F70 I agree that Ferrari isn't making a "Prototype with a Plate". It's more classically beautiful than P1 and follows Luca era Ferrari Supercars nicely.

P1's design goals were much more a Race Car for the Road and I think they too have met their goals.

There is no wrong or right. It's like saying Per Se is "better" than The Stone Barn at Blue Hill. They are both worth dining at.

I've liked 'Prototype's with plates" for a while and have put over 100K road miles on them over the years but many have no interest in them and collect Cal Sypders for example.

The one thing I will say that driving a Prototype with a Plate on the road isn't something you soon forget.
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This third and last teaser before official presentation has been provided by: http://supercarteam.com/ferrari-rilascia-lultimo-teaser-della-f150/
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wearing my fire suit now.

after reviewing the p1 design I actually think the p1 is a better integrated design, and the operative word is "integrated design". The p1 headlight and front nose integration is very koo. The f150 was not as integrated. its more like they design the simple nose and then they just plop in some headlights.

The P1 looks very balance and shows a nice road hugging profile. I would not say one car is amazingly better than the other. They are both brilliant. We should rejoice at the number of great choices on offer these days.

but nevertheless I would still buy the f150.

let me add one more comment, the p1 looks like a soup up mp4 12c due to the compactness integrate design.

The f150 looks more like a true showstopping limited edition supercar.
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I agree and said so a while ago.

Your comments on Big mouths in the real world are very true. You really have to be able to get in there and blow them out from the rear. From what an engineer told me they're worried about cooling. Huge HP takes huge cooling as the Veyron showed us. From 2011 to 2012 we reduced front inlet a lot for the reasons you spoke of.

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Thanks for all the info. Really looking forward to full info!
Some people will be gloating regarding the 0-200 figure as "another car" makes it in "sub 7 sec"

Any figures for 0-300 kmh by any chance?

 

The weight mentioned for the F70 is 1280 kg. However, I don't understand if that is the dry weight with the Kers system included or without it ???

 

It says 1280kg + 150kg for electric motor

 

Thank you. Many of the renderings are simply not able to 'fit' into the framework authorized photos we have seen.

For example the photos shown by Ferrari of the front and the rear--many of the renderings are mathematically outside the things we can actually see on those photos. In other renderings they are mathematically outside the boundaries we can imply with the camouflaged cars.

It drives me nuts when someone suggests a rendering is genuine or "close" with such obvious physical defects.

 

Visually the P1 looks horrible. The headlights for instance are a gimmicky reference to the company's logo. Not worthy of a true supercar. Side profile is a mess alltogether.

But what I do like is the 'organic' quality of the design. In some way it looks like one of those sneakers you see kids running around on these days, but in another way it looks very purposefull, crafted by science reminiscent of an insect which is very effective in the task nature has bestowed upon it.

I am sure the P1 will have a great impact, where ever it shows up. Be it on the Place de Casino in Monaco or in a highway in upstate New York.

 

Thanks for sharing. Much appreciated.

 

That's too heavy. They should have ditched the Kers.

 

autoblog.it says weight is with kers system ,so 1280 kl dry weight

 

The design parameters the engineers needed to meet was the same wright and length as the enzo. Sounds easy eh? But no because unlike the enzo they needed to include the kers system and still come in under the same weight. so 1280kg all in (dry i think).

Full powertrain is 550kg including the kers which alone makes up 150kg. battery life is 8 years claimed (ha! dream on)

The kers consist of a electric motor that couples to the transmission unit, control unit that sits on top of that and dual battery packs that sit under the car right behind the driver and passenger seating.

hence their engineering achievement was the ability to engineer in the kers with same package and weight as old enzo.

 

It will be interesting to see if they warantee 8 year KERS battery life.

"(ha! dream on)"

 

Thanks again. Seems like all sites that mention a press release from Ferrari are quoting something different! We will know on Tuesday what's really true

 

dude, they don't even warranty a car more than 3 years. battery technology is not there to last eight years. i assure you they haven't fully bench test these batteries to last 8 years. each car will vary based on how many charge and discharge cycles.