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Stupid 458 accident

Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by MD355, Mar 7, 2013.

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  1. waltk88

    waltk88 Formula Junior

    Jun 10, 2004
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    I get what you're saying. With the higher limits of today's cars, the driver is also going a lot faster when losing control.
     
  2. HK boy

    HK boy Formula Junior

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    Yes, for an inexperience driver losing it in the rain, a slower car would be easier to handle.
     
  3. Noblesse Oblige

    Noblesse Oblige F1 Veteran

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    I believe that in the bad weather mode, the traction control will intervene to prevent the kind of power applciation, when combined with an acute steering angle, that produced the accident.
     
  4. racerdj

    racerdj F1 Veteran
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    It hurts to look at this one!
     
  5. Hakan458

    Hakan458 Formula Junior

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    What's even worse is the car was registered the morning of the crash...
     
  6. HK boy

    HK boy Formula Junior

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    #56 HK boy, Mar 9, 2013
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  7. Noblesse Oblige

    Noblesse Oblige F1 Veteran

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    Finished. But the crush zones did their job, and the driver will live to try it again.
     
  8. TheMayor

    TheMayor Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Wow that's bad!!!
     
  9. HK boy

    HK boy Formula Junior

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    Hope he learned something.
     
  10. Cheeky Monkey

    Cheeky Monkey Karting

    Jul 29, 2009
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    Exact same thing happened to me a few weeks ago. Dry road, sport mode. Did exactly as in the video but maybe not so hard on the gas. My car veered left then right before I managed to pull the wheel to the left just before what happened in the video where the whole car turned to the right. Eventually (although it seemed like forever) I got back in a straight line with cars either side of me on a 3 lane street. I'm no novice and have had my 458 for almost 2 years.
    Just saying.... It can happen to anyone.
    I think the 458 is way too light on the front end.
    I don't know if it was the ESC that sorted it out, me or a combination of the two.
    Also I think the 458 handles like crap in wet weather. It will aquaplane at a minimum amount of water on the asphalt.
    Once again I feel the front end is just too light it can't hold the road.
    I'm sure many will argue with this (especially those who never want to hear a bad word said against an F car) but I have never owned any car that I don't feel reasonably safe in wet weather.
    BTW I have the Michelin Super Sports (II).
     
  11. sg1

    sg1 Karting

    Sep 29, 2012
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    Do you have Michelin Pilot Sport 2s or Michelin Pilot Super Sport K1s?
     
  12. 4th_gear

    4th_gear F1 Rookie

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    Really painful to see someone get in such a silly accident with a brand new sweetheart of a car. His insurance should cover the loss but his ego is going to take a lot more to fix.

    With manual transmissions, the best way to recover from power on oversteer is to declutch and immediately steer in the direction that your backend is now heading BEFORE your backend "overtakes" your frontend.

    Having said this I have a question for all you F1 pros. My driving experience is completely in sporty stick-shift cars with none in F1 tranny cars except for my brief test drives. So I hope someone here can enlighten me on the proper response with F1 trannies.

    I know I can switch to neutral by pulling back on both paddles and I also know how to steer :#D, but how do I get back on power once the car is going straight again? Do I just apply gas and the F1 tranny will pick the right gear depending on vehicle speed? I'm very likely picking up my car this Spring... in the middle of rainy season, LOL!
     
  13. NürScud

    NürScud F1 Veteran

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    +1
     
  14. masernegro

    masernegro Karting

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    hey Mayor thanks for the memories... I remember the first time I saw that quote it was car and driver and the photo was a ferrari in a ditch wrapped around a tree. and the guy was up on the road lighting a cigarette cool as s*%t!!!
     
  15. masernegro

    masernegro Karting

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    #65 masernegro, Mar 11, 2013
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  16. TexasF355F1

    TexasF355F1 Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    See page 1.;)
     
  17. MobilisInMobile

    Mar 12, 2013
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    The people filing the accident did not know the Ferrari driver, they were speculating that he was a soccer player as they merged on to the highway, trying to pull up to see who's in the car, then they saw the crash and the guys yells at his mother (haha thats funny to me for some reason,) to pull over and see if he's ok. They were not racing or anything. I am not a F driver so I can't say but it seemed like the F driver was being pretty conservative and slow in his movements...too bad though. Maybe car is just too light.
     
  18. 308geo

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  19. Etcetera

    Etcetera Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Limited edition Massa version of the 458.
     
  20. greyboxer

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    The date is often a clue : March 8
     
  21. don_xvi

    don_xvi F1 Rookie

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    At least he had those electronic nannys out of the way...

    What tires does a 458 come on? I'm sure there are a couple.
    Does the owners manual say anything about driving in cold temperatures?
    What we might call a "summer only" tire really is very ill suited to operating below, let's say, 40 degrees F.
     
  22. SrfCity

    SrfCity F1 World Champ

    Jeez, who was the guy driving that? He punched it on a wet road like a newbie.
     
  23. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    WTH?

    ??
     
  24. NeuroBeaker

    NeuroBeaker Advising Moderator
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    Yea... that's puzzling, considering the car was smashed all over two lanes. :confused:

    All the best,
    Andrew.
     
  25. Ferrari 360 CS

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    What a strange accident!
     

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