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SCG 003 and SCG 003C (formerly known as "P 33")

Discussion in 'Special Projects & Concept Cars' started by Napolis, Mar 15, 2013.

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  1. TestShoot

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    The power to weight ratio kind of scares me. At that weight, will it pass any safety regulations for track use? The P4 was from an era of less stringent safety regulations.
     
  2. Napolis

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    With a CF tub 4 sure. Those are goals. We may have to be a little heavier but we think we can stay in that range. No matter what we will be a lot lighter, simplier and smaller than P1/918/La Ferrari.
     
  3. TestShoot

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    Nice, I look forward to your findings. I am just salivating at the idea of single seat cars like the Atom, Tramonta, and the Mono F1 like posted above.
     
  4. ferraripete

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    I agree with you regarding the tone of the responses to Jim in the first few pages. Disrespectful at best. Jim is a man who clearly does not need to defend his actions or vision relative to his cars and good taste.

    His track record should not be in doubt. His generosity in letting us all participate is a special thing indeed.

    Best,

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  5. TestShoot

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    +1
     
  6. Nurburgringer

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    #206 Nurburgringer, Mar 19, 2013
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    uh oh Jim, you just lost a bunch of, ok a couple F-chat fans now that Jalopnik's been tipped off:
    Jim Glickenhaus' Next Amazing One-Of-A-Kind Car Is The Lightweight P33

    They also picture a different Alfa than the T33 I had been thinking about.
    Seems that Alfa made a Stradale P33 Pininfarina Roadster as well.
    Not crazy about the overall shape (a bit too TVR 280 in the rear flanks, Bricklin in the front) but I absolutely love the targa bar and cut-down windscreen.
    Like the '62 Mustang Concept had.
    *fingers crossed that P33 will have a Targa top*
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  7. MaxPower

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    Congratulations on your new project Jim.

    Looking forward to all the updates.
     
  8. merstheman

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    That first car is the one I was talking about in the Dino Competizione thread, regarding its sketch and how close the Sergio is to a modern interpretation of it. It's the Pininfarina Sergio of the 70's.
     
  9. BradTrent

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    Hey Jim.....you're gonna need photos, right?!!

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    Hey Jim.....you're gonna need photos, right?!!

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  11. Napolis

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    4 sure.

    4 sure.

    :)
     
  12. JeremyJon

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    #212 JeremyJon, Mar 20, 2013
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    they deleted the old one, and reworded as SCG being the "contractor", LOL

    they are all business, not necessarily lookers to be sure, it'll be interesting to see the balance P33 strikes between the aero & styling?

    the illustration isn't their own, it's been taken from the many entries of 2011 Ferrari World Design Contest, not even sure if they have permission to use it?
    it's called the "Aliante" concept, designed by a student team, more pics here:
    2011 Ferrari World Design Contest In Maranello |


    many other unique & more extreme designs from that contest too (image below)

    have you considered sponsoring a design student challenge for P33? like one of JM2's senior year projects perhaps?
    to cultivate ideas from those talents, give them the pertinent aero device locations/shapes and let'm loose!
    that would be pretty cool IMO! :)
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  13. Bounce

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    Will you be incorporating any form of active aero? Thanks.
     
  14. jhietter

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    If it is possible to build sub 2000lb performance cars that are road legal then why don't we see more of them?
     
  15. JeremyJon

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    cost of materials & labor vs profit mostly, also designed around being produced in an easy way on assembly line, building components durability to withstand incidents & wear+tear beyond what a maintained custom one off needs, also with many allowances for liability reasons, lastly is many many people have input, from senior managers to engineers, so that all contributes
    Jim doesn't have those worries the same
     
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    I am a fan of 4/5. Bigger fan of 4/5 C as it is a race car. Haven't seen this one but assume it will be cool.

    Any reason why you are shying away from American designed American metal?

    "Homage" to Chaparral one day?
     
  18. Napolis

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    Maybe DRS but our goal is simple.
     
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    That could be cool. Jim is really an amazing designer/engineer/constructor.
     
  20. Napolis

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    Exactly. Also there's the amount of extra's stuffed into cars these days like Air conditioned seats etc. that add a LOT of weight.
     
  21. Napolis

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    Student's are great but before they're of use to us they have to learn that all that can be drawn can't be driven...
     
  22. JeremyJon

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    #222 JeremyJon, Mar 20, 2013
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    true, just as an idea for generating/cultivate multiple styling ideas, designers can be so different from engineers in what ideas come forth & perhaps directions not previously considered within the outlined concept, senior students would have the most training, and given the aero envelope info should be able to incorporate that & would be good experience for them also,
    but you're correct in that for sure,
    just an idea to consider? :)
     
  23. jm2

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    Absolutely agree,and that's what the faculty are here for
    You and I should talk
     
  24. Napolis

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    Scuderia Cameron Glickenhaus is affiliated with two schools. Politecnico in Turin and The School of Design in Solvanano. We've used their graduates on our projects. We also do seminars at both schools and Ferrari P 4/5 by pininfarina's styling model is on permanent loan to Solvanano's Museum. We've also done seminars for students with the National Auto Museum of Italy who's shield we also race under.
     
  25. VigorousZX

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    #225 VigorousZX, Mar 20, 2013
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    Sir, you have truly inspired the direction of future car design and I for one love to see these curvaceous style beauties.
    Besides the student designers, there's the huge online auto community at large in which through threads at the largest and best car forums, design ideas can be generated and rated on.

    I also think you should not limit the best car design that a car could be... meaning if the rear of the car would look best with a Zagato Aston v12 tail-light treatment, do it!

    And with that mentality I think Ive reach my pinnacle of my designing and making my favorite design with the following... which I hope might influence this P33 as its in the same spirit :)
    cheers

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