welcome, there is a lot of great stuff in this thread also you might enjoy http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/creative-arts/359365-car-design-harder-than-i-had-thought-help-please.html
Thanks. Thanks for the link, too. Looks like there are a few designers here. This should be fun. Lots of great stuff in here. It's nice to find a thread like this.
with all the talk about 3D printing, it's easy to over look other excellent rapid-prototyping technology, for example CNC wood modeling, it's pretty amazing in detail actually, and interconnecting parts can be separately made then assembled also likely cheaper than plastic modeling below the wood model concept car & a rapid-prototyped mock up of the aston martin LMP engine, for fitment and clearances Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
This is much akin to most of my time in architecture - certainly didn't do 1:1 building mockups but many details had to be drawn full size. What I'm seeing on this thread is amazing.
My favorite material for this application is composite foam. It machines awesome, has no grain, and is easily finished with automotive paints. I'm using it on my latest piece and despite its' cost, I love it.
this looks like it might be interesting: Icona reveals first render of Vulcano super sportscar - Car Design News
Peter Stephens,designer of the Maclaren F1 has this to say about LFerrari at greencardesign.com. It did make me laugh,although I'm guessing that wasn't his intent : "Pretentious, moi?" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GCD Team | 08 March 2013 Penning perhaps the most significant and revered supercar ever built gives you a certain margin when it comes to criticising others, and given the opposing philosophies behind McLaren's almost understated F1 of 1994 and the recent sensual assault represented by Ferrari's latest supercar, it's hard to argue with Peter Stevens. Anway, we'll let you decide. Here's what landed in our inbox. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- “Pretentious, moi?”, as Miss piggy would have said. The last memorable use of the word 'La' written ahead of the name of a car was back in 1956 when Dodge named their new model, which was specifically target towards women, the Dodge La Femme. Tasteful pastel two-tone colours and wide whitewall tyres was how Dodge thought it could capture a female following. Now Ferrari has bizarrely called their latest car the ‘LaFerrari’ and it's suggested that the original name was to be ‘F150’ - that would have raised a few laughs in the American Midwest. It wouldn't, however, be surprising if Ferrari was thinking of a similar customer base, as this thing positively reeks of testosterone. 800 or maybe 950 horsepower is laughable, as is the need to exceed 60mph in less time than it takes to blow your nose. Perish the thought that many customers will be faced with the dilemma of which to do first. The fact that the ‘LaF’ is such a grim looking piece of styling does not help its irrelevant cause, and it certainly won’t attract those in touch with their feminine side. There will be endless observations from the chaps in Maranello that it looks that way because of the technology but that is always a lame excuse. Both the front end and the rear are brutalist in the way that an A10 ‘Warthog’ aircraft is and that was designed purely for killing people. Showing a singular lack of finesse, the handling of the forms, particularly around the rear of the front wheel-arch, is particularly poor but in truth it is the adulation with which such a car is greeted that is so out of date, not the surface treatment. The really clever people know that there is still pleasure to be had in driving a responsive and rewarding car but they also know that, just like Ettore Bugatti and his delicate 1927 Type 35 Bugatti, you do not need the horsepower of an earth mover to have fun. Or of a ‘truck’, as he described Bentleys. A little bit of visible responsibility in these difficult times could be a much better message than that given out by this ‘LaF-a-minute’ memorial to excess. Peter Stevens
to be fair that's Peter Steven's quote, not JM2's good read, a bit of a rant, but fair to say, the rarified market of the LaFerrari is not going to be in tune with the rest of the market certainly, and it's limited production means it's not going to affect the industry really as a whole IMHO the LaFerrari is a bit like a second or fourth installment in a movie series, lots of glitz and packed full of stuff, but ultimately not as memorable
Well said. I think I'd say the same thing about the P1 as well, or any other current supercar. It all seems a bit much.
I'm very disappointed that he felt the need to call the LFerrari : " such a grim looking piece of styling". Seriously.....? He may have to eat those words in the future IMHO.
it's not horrendous, but the super car designs always do seem to be more polarizing, don't they? curious to see this one when unveiled... Icona will unveil a one-off super sports car dubbed Vulcano at next month's Shanghai auto show. The Vulcano was coachbuilt in Italy and was designed by the Shanghai-based Italian design house to show an evolution of its design language, first seen on the 2011 Icona Fuselage concept designed by Samuel Chuffart, Icona's design director. Icona says the design aims express the power within the hood while keeping the shapes harmonious. The architect of the Vulcano's powertrain is Claudio Lombardi, Ferrari's former powertrain technical director. The car is able to reach 200km/h in under 10 seconds, with its top speed around 350 km/h. Image Unavailable, Please Login
interesting to watch the clay work being done [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMh883wahq4]New Volkswagen L1 Concept Car Design Package - YouTube[/ame]
still have my clay tools !!!! there is nothing like watching a true professional sculptor developing a surface on a clay model....
i love these sneak peaks at the actual work involved! [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnuH5No_aXM]VW Design - From CAD to clay model - YouTube[/ame] [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-x98PL-gh0[/ame]
LOL no that wouldn't work very well ....I remember my school drafting classes, our teacher had us doing over & over, corbel, column sections, dentil moulding profiles, etc. that sounds intriguing, what is an example/maker of that material?
CAD only began to gain a foothold in architectural firms after introduction of Windows 95 and not on a building industry wide scale until post-2000 and much faster processors - hand drafting was still faster than waiting for a complex image to come up on the earliest Windows 95 rigs. I'm assuming that you're much younger than me but in light of the above I can also assume that hand drawing was still taught in high schools until the late '90s; I had a college architecture student in my office in '93 and they were drawing by hand at that time. The items you mention were everyday work in my years as an architect. Standard and well known shapes and profiles could be drawn to scale but unique combinations or variations on standard had to be drawn full size. For hand-carved and very expensive items such as stone Corinthian column capitals the supplier would submit a finished full size one for architect's approval and builder evaluation for installation before going on to complete the full order.
