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Maserati Khamsin

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  1. Doug R

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    #4326 Doug R, Mar 19, 2013
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  2. chriskindl

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    #4327 chriskindl, Mar 19, 2013
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    Some weeks ago I reproduced 10 sets of the rubber floor mat set which was used on the early khamsin models. 6 of 10 sets are left.

    I call it "einstrichkeinstrich" design. the design contains also some nice details like the paranova script, etc..

    sold in a set of 3 pcs.

    In case of interest pls. send a PM to ChrisKindl at web.de

    Best,
    M. Evert
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  3. Doug R

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    What works well at cleaning/removing LHM fluid from carpets, etc?
     
  4. staatsof

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    #4329 staatsof, Mar 19, 2013
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    Here's what I did.

    I used a lot of paper towels to soak as much out of the carpet as I could.
    It's possible something like a big bag of rice might help as well? That's used for electronics dropped in water.

    Toss out the padding.

    Use a spray detergent (409 etc.) and water on the metal.

    Put the carpet in the washing machine and use warm water but on a very gentle cycle.

    No drier though. I made that mistake and some of the binding separated with the backing attached to it.

    If the LHM has deteriorated the rubber backing enough it may all fall apart anyway so be careful.

    If you can arrange it, measure the long pieces ahead of time and dry them on a rack that prevents shrinkage. With my Bora that wasn't an issue but I certainly was with the long sill piece carpets on my Espada.

    Good luck.
     
  5. thecarnut

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    The tool kits are more like the Ghibli than the 3500GT. I have a Khamsin tool kit that came in a heavy canvas instead of the usual vinyl seen on the Ghibli. The jack bag on that car is also the same heavy canvas.

    Ivan
     
  6. Nembo1777

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    #4331 Nembo1777, Mar 19, 2013
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    Hello all,

    Fabio Collina of Maserati Classiche at the factory kindly helped me identify the Khamsin in the movie I mentioned in post 4317.

    Based on its colors, on it being a very early car and delivery to Sicily it is AM120.038, retrofitted since then with a vented nose, many of the early cars have had that done in period.

    The car is for sale at Classica Automobile in Austria:

    http://www.classicdriver.com/uk/find/4100_results.asp?bsubmit=true&lmodelflag=10383&lmanufacturer=10080&whatbutton.x=0&page=0&lCarID=1838977

    so if someone wants a movie Khamsin go get it:)...and no, nein I am not involved in its sale, just happy that it could be identified!

    best regards,

    Marc
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  7. Nembo1777

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    Phil,

    The car at Gullwing Motrorcars is awful and would not give you a good first impression...and first impressions count!

    I encourage you to see a K in good condition and with Euro bumpers. There used to be a NYC owner Jordan (who had or has a black K AM120US1234 which is actually the first K I ever drove back in 1997 in Colorado) posting here once in a while but not recently.

    Best wishes,

    Marc

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  8. MK1044

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    From that web site price 72.777 GBP. It's nice to see the asking prices on good cars getting up there.
     
  9. philt68

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    seeing anything at gullwing is likely to spoil your impression forever!....

    and of course, i'm happy to return the favor, if anyone is interested in my bits and pieces..


     
  10. bundas

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    had the worst experience, well almost the worst
     
  11. f308jack

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    Back in Cape Town from a 3 week stay in Holland.

    Did not have any spare time, so visits to 004 and Bart's T-top K did not materialize. Thanks much for the invites guys, I hope to have the opportunity on my next visit!

    Bob and Carmine, thank you for your kind words a few pages back. Doing my best to make 435 as good as possible. I'm lucky to start with a car in very good shape as it is!

    The only thing I brought back with me for 435 is a new LHM-tank filler neck and cap. Mine was as hard as a brick, the new one is nice and plyable:) Unfortunately, Citroen-andre in Holland didn't have the ring-insert to lock it in place, so I will make one.

    Does anyone have the correct diameter of the insert?

    Re.: Carpets. Mine were not LHM-soiled, but I don't think they were ever cleaned in 31 years. I washed them in the bathtub with normal laundry-soap for handwash, let them soak overnight (no silly questions, we have several bathtubs to use and I did not fill all with mats), rinsed them thoroughly and they are as new. Amazing how much muck accumulates in them, even the ones behind the seats. All nice and fresh again.

    I'll be back in my garage again tomorrow, and will post updates and pics on the facebook page for Maserati Khamsin 435.

    Best,

    Jack.
     
  12. Mexico074

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    Hello Jack...

    Interesting about the filler neck and cap.. I to will be ordering a new filler neck today for my K.. We both may need to be careful when we install it with respect to the small
    diameter plastic tubes that go through it.. I suspect these could have become somewhat
    brittle over time... I was thinking of lubing them with some LHM before attempting to
    insert them...

    Anybody else with some experience in this?

    Mike
     
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    Hi Mike,

    For the purpose I was thinking of using aluminium or steel pipe, with a small lip on top to prevent it being pushed all the way through. I just need the right diameter, to small and the neck won't seal properly, too big and stuff gets damaged installing it.

    Best,

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    Doug,

    In the photo (post # 4326), what is the twist handle thing with a helical gear or cutter on it? (It's on the tool roll to the right of the spark plug wrench).

    Carmine
     
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    Window winder

    Cheers

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  16. Doug R

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    Beat me to the punch, manual window cranker.
     
  17. staatsof

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    Identical to the one in my Espada. Confidence inspiring ...
     
  18. MK1044

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    Does it have a FIAT part number? :rolleyes:
     
  19. John Berg

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    #4344 John Berg, Mar 24, 2013
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    Gentlemen,

    Time to install the engine again after 3 years out….

    Few questions to the experts;

    Dose the engine go in with gearbox installed?
    What about exhaust / headers?
    Other things to take into consideration – before lifting the engine over the bay?

    It will be a big day - hopefully next Wednesday and Easter vacation fun with my son.

    Some feedback will be appreciated - thanks,

    Kind regards
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  20. staatsof

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    Still not too late to switch to a small block Chevy with a Muncie 4-SPD LOL :D

    I'm only guessing for the Khamsin but ...

    Good helper
    Hood off
    One of these: http://www.apmengineparts.com/582.html?productid=582&channelid=FROOG
    Then do it all in one piece with the car up on stout jack stands.



    Looks lovely John. Take your time and enjoy the install process.
     
  21. MK1044

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    John,

    I have not done this kind of work on the Khamsin but I agree with Bob that you should try to install the engine and trans as a unit assembly if you can get it in that way. I'd advise leaving the exhaust manifolds off until after the sub-assembly is fastened in place. Bob's idea of having a load tilting mechanism on the hoist seems like a good one. I've also thought that it might be good to have the rear of the car set higher than the front while installing. But have some adjustable jacks set under the front so you can level the car once the engine-trans is approximately positioned. Again, this is all purely speculation.

    Why did you have the engine out?

    Also, what is that large diagram on the back wall?

    Good luck with the work. Be careful. Enjoy.

    Carmine
     
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    John,

    Great to have reached the point where the mill can be re-united with the rest!

    I have never installed one of these, but, to mud the waters, I'd do engine and trans separately.

    I motivate this as follows:

    1)
    You have a lift, so putting the trans in from below is not an issue.
    2)
    The engine by itself is a lot lighter and smaller, easier to get into place, and more importantly, avoid damaging anything.

    A load-tilting device is a very good helper.

    Whichever way you go, make sure you have enough height for the engine hoist. Also, the engine sits far from the front, make sure that the legs of the hoist are adjusted out far so it can't topple over forward. You'll need to prop the front up anyway, to make space for the legs of the hoist, they won't pass under the car otherwise.

    Do the headers last.

    Have fun!

    Jack.
     
  23. staatsof

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    Asking Gene O'Gorman directly might be pretty informational.
    He rebuilt the engine in the Khamnsin he owned several years ago.
    I think his was an automatic though.
     
  24. chriskindl

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    Hi John,

    1) Yes, engine and gear box go in at once. Pls. use a balancer.
    2) srew on the exhaust manifold after installation, to gain more space for adjustment.
    3) check if you have enough space to put in the drive shaft in later. There is a crossing member on the chassis which makes it difficult afterwards and when the rear support frame of the differntial trnasmission is already in place.
    Put a rubber hose on the gear shifter to avoid srcatches.
    Please do not mix up the springs of the 2 engine supports.
    (Just to make sure, it will work only without steering and Radiator installed)

    Send a PM for pics.

    Good Luck
    Marek
     
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    #4350 John Berg, Mar 25, 2013
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    Gents’

    Summarizing all the good notes in the past days I will try to install the engine and gear box in one go’ then leaving the rest to be installed later.

    My idea is that the engine and gearbox is levelled horizontal in the rear lift brackets each side of the engine. Then the front lifting bracket can work to tilt and balance the engine on the way in. To have the gearbox installed during makes it so much easier to support the engine and gearbox once installed.

    If the gear box is off the engine need some heavy support in the rear as the supports / engine brackets are fare in the front of the engine.

    I will post some pictures of the process!

    Thanks to all of you,

    John
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