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Countach, the ultimate supercar

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  1. triple-x

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    Pic of car taken by my daughter in jan 2010 in Melbourne

    I have quite a few pics of this car when I drove it In Norwich UK, in 2006

    I will see if I can find them!

    Paul
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    cool, if you looked inside it. The car phone is great bit of history. Cream with black piping.
     
  6. triple-x

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    @Joe NOS 195 or 225 P7?

    Im not using my NOS 205s for this event.
     
  7. joe sackey

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    I have seen the 225s used on everything from LP400S to QV successfully, I am just not sure if the 195s will work, so I'm inclined to recommend the 225s.
     
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    #16283 joe sackey, Mar 25, 2013
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    I could be wrong here and perhaps only Mike Perry will remember, but, my understanding was that F 925 OYR was in fact ordered by a Greek gentleman who specified a red interior. When the car arrived at Portman's, he didn't like the looks of the combination, and it was re-sold to Rick Lee on the basis or Portman re-trimming the interior to tan/black piping.

    The famed car-phone was affixed to the side of the transmission tunnel.
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  9. islandguy

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    I think your being a little harsh on this one my friend, but hilarious nonetheless.

    If anything I’d say the tools are worth more than the red painted logo on the intakes. $20K for tires, really?

    I agree on the shift knob. That’s blasphemy, unless you have those goofy gold wheels ;)

    The “peepee” thing has got me freaking out though. You could have a least said snail tracks or something like that :D

    Seriously, we should be here to support the cause. If this car sells for asking price more power to all of us. One day the new owner may stop in and I’d like to think that he/she would feel welcome.
     
  10. Robert W

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    Well, I can tell you the whole story... Mr. Michaelides did indeed order the car new, and I too had heard he specified a red interior originally and the car was retrimmed some shade of cream, however Mr.Michaelides owned the car for a long time because back in 1988 his son was in my year at school.... yes, there was a young lad who was dropped off and collected at school sometimes by his Dad in a brand new black Lamborghini Countach. The story at school was that Mr.Michaelides pulled away at speed from the traffic lights and tried to nip in front of a Fiat Panda that was next to him, and spun the car round and round meaning it needed a complete respray. Later it went to Rick Lee. Mr.Michaelides later had a red Anniversary too.
     
  11. joe sackey

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    The car was an 88.5 and by late 1990 Rick Lee was the owner, so Michaelides owned it a year-and-a-half tops.
     
  12. roytoy2003

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    But I thought 88.5 cars are just a "USA Dealer thing" and were produced in 1987 and 88..at least thats what you have posted prior...

    so he could have owned it prior to 88.5...**the non exsisting car**
     
  13. Robert W

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    Would make sense - crashed it, sold it, got and Anniversary!
     
  14. SAB

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    There were a number of 88.5 cars in the UK, (revised side sills with grooves or strakes), so not a US dealer thing. Factory as far as I know.
     
  15. joe sackey

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    Yes they are factory.

    The USA dealers selling them as new cars (Irv David, Tony Carlini, Frank Kerbeck et al) came up with the "88.5" moniker or nickname to differentiate these factory side-skirted cars from the earlier QVs.

    In Europe & England for example, Mike Perry & his staff simply referred to them when new as Side-skirted Countachs. When they were new, it was only the USA dealers that referred to them as 88.5, so the USA dealers who created this nickname are responsible for it. Over the years, everyone, dealers & enthusiasts alike, began referring to them as 88.5 simply as a means by which that variant is identified, and that "88.5" reference stuck.

    For clarification purposes, as far as Lamborghini SpA is concerned, these side-skirted Countachs were simply referred to as a late 1987 or early 1988 car etc accordingly. For the particular amongst us, the 88.5 designation is not an official one with Lamborghini SpA, and it does not exist anywhere on any official literature, ID plates etc.

    All this is just clarification, not a slam against the variant.

    Porsche has "Ducktail" and Ferrari has "Longnose" etc, same thing, just for purposes of identification, albeit unofficial.
     
  16. Peter K.

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    Holy crap. Should have put you on the D.B. Cooper case!
     
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    When they started adding the skirts, did all cars get them? Or was it optional?
     
  18. joe sackey

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    They all did, from the fall of 1987 to the summer of 1988 when 25th Anniversario production took over. Its always possible a person requested the car without, but all the cars that came down the line & were pictured at the factory had them. So too all the new ones I encountered in the period, plus since.
     
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    Did they make the change per '88 model year, with some cars actually built in '87 or was this just a running change? Would 87.5 make more sense?
     
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    #16296 triple-x, Mar 26, 2013
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    Check out my new rims!

    Just kidding.... My Gotti's are out for a refresh so to keep the car a roller I used my BMW rims.

    My E-28 ///M5 wheels are a perfect fit bolt pattern wise.

    I'm so tempted to go to festival with those rims. Too bad it would be too much work to take the flares off.

    I could say it was a very late and rare LP-400/500 (no S) prototype that was the Geneva show car but was only there for 5 mins if you blinked you missed it.

    JUST KIDDING.... lmao
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  22. grngryoutmyway

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    Car has been on CL along with a couple other hacked up kit cars. Funny, his asking in his ads was $65k, random coincidence that is what the bidding got up to before it stalled? Don't think so. Looks like opening was $40k, I would say every single one of those bids is a shill bid. I can see a few looky loos thowing in some 2-5k bids if it started that low, but not at 40.
     
  23. leexj

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    At first I thought that the added wire was to give the coil full power during start. Most cars have a wire from the starter that gives full power to the coil and when it has started, the ballast resistor powers the coil so the points don't cook and the start wire is un-powered (it's powered by the solenoid and when the key is released to run, the solenoid is disconnected).
    I can't imagine either of those red wires having enough current carrying capacity to power the starter itself.

    Then looking at the schematic, it looks like the starter wire from the ignition switch is cut and routes to the coil end of the relay with the other end of the coil going to ground and one contact goes from the battery and the other to the starter's solenoid. If that was a design flaw, it would seem all Countachs would have this problem (unless they fixed it on the line). If they indeed fixed it on the line, good, if not, you've still got an electrical gremlin somewhere. It might be the ignition switch or the wire from the start position of the ignition switch to the start solenoid is the wrong diameter to carry enough current to fire the solenoid OR the power wire to the ignition switch could also be bad or again, too small to handle the current or, has a bad connection somewhere.

    I would look over that if I were you unless there is a fix Lamborghini implemented during the assembly line and if that's the case, it would be nice to know the serial number when the introduced the fix.
     
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    Sweet...NOT. Six cylinders? The chrome or whatever that finish is looks like the chrome they use in models.

    From the posting:


    Up for auction is a one of a kind Lamborghini Diablo convertible exact replica. Based off of the 2000 model. It has been totally redesigned to give it that Aventador look. The car has had over $120,000 invested in it, not to mention years of time put in by some expert car builders. And yes, it is chrome!


    Unlike anything you will ever see on the road this "silver surfer" or "silver bullet" gets more attention than any car on the road. Make sure you can handle attention, because camera phones will come out like never before and people will be extra nice to you all of the sudden and most likely even ask if you will take their picture with it.


    Many car experts opinion is that this is better than the real Diablo in many ways (REALLY???). It sounds just as good if not better than the real deal. As it sounds like a jet engine taking off, with an awesome exotic backup roar that is so unique people turn their heads before even seeing it, almost as if a jet airplane is about to land. It could be a daily driver, as it is super reliable and simple to maintain. It also has plenty more space than the original Diablo, allowing for a person anywhere from 5'5 up to 7 feet tall to easily fit into. It is an exotic super car, that does not have a top or windows, absolutely exhilarating to drive!


    The engine is a mid engine McLaren (HMMM, NO PICTURES OF THE ENGINE??)designed supercharged V6 that pushes about 350 horsepower. It comes from GM (WHAT COMES FROM GM, THE ENGINE or the WIRING HARNESS?) so it uses a modified GM harness, oil filter, etc. all practically brand new. Now 350 horse may sound like a lot already, but when pushing a vehicle that weighs around 1850 pounds it feels more like 700 horses. As it will throw you back in the seat as the 4 point harnesses quickly tighten up... It uses a 5 speed transaxle (Fiero, oh wait, those are four speeds, so what is it? )that has a short fast shift that propels it extremely well, very easy and fun to drive. Custom tubular chassis using the GM tub and GM wiring, built like a nascar. GM TUB??? FIERO?????? I'd love to see the butchered wiring harness, I can imagine all the black tape splices in it.
     
  25. islandguy

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    Hi Lee,

    The point of the added wire is to give the starter an additional 12v 20A line to draw from. The same could be done by increasing the dia of the primary red 30 wire assuming a single relay could handle the current.

    Larry
     

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