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My first F car will be a F12

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  1. FNewb

    FNewb Karting

    Dec 29, 2012
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    Just confirmed an order for my first Ferrari

    F12berlinetta
    Rosso Corsa
    Cuoio interior with cuoio carpets
    Upper Part of Passenger Compartment in cuoio
    Headliner in cuoio
    Red Stitching (STC2)
    Red Cavalinos in headrests
    LED's in steering wheel (all leather with no CF)
    Yellow Tach
    Full electric seats
    AFS - Front Lighting System
    Front Parking Sensors
    Rear Parking Camera
    Front Parking Camera with Dual View
    Hi Fi Premium System
    Passenger Display
    Cruise Control
    Tyre Pressure and Temperature Monitoring System
    Outer and Inner Electro Chromic Mirrors
    Sport Sill Cover
    Shields
    20" Matt Silver Painted Forged Wheels

    Kind of a stripper compared to most of the other amazing cars here on FChat, but at USD1,450,000 as configured, it will have to do.

    June production with July delivery has been promised.
     
  2. F2003-GA

    F2003-GA F1 World Champ
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    Congrats - Enjoy in Good Health
    That's a very very powerful car have
    you had any prior sports cars ?
     
  3. Ripped Fat

    Ripped Fat Karting

    Oct 28, 2010
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    $1.45mm for an F12? Did I miss something?
     
  4. ace355

    ace355 Formula Junior

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    Yes, you don't live in Singapore!
     
  5. dcmetro

    dcmetro F1 Veteran

    Nov 27, 2007
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    I want to drop bombs on countries practicing such import taxes.


    OP : Enjoy your ride and post pics once delivered !!
     
  6. Need4Spd

    Need4Spd F1 Veteran

    Feb 24, 2007
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    Silicon Valley
    If you think that's bad, try pricing one in China!
     
  7. Lfpontes

    Lfpontes Karting

    Nov 1, 2010
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    Yup same thing here in Brazil.
    800K$ for a 458
    $975k for a Spider
    1.5mm for a F12.

    3.75mm for a CCXR
    5MM for a veyron GS.

    Not enough?

    $350k for a cayenne turbo,
    $130k for a BMW 335i sedan

    The list goes on and on..

    Last one: $60K for a Cooper S
     
  8. DriveAfterDark

    DriveAfterDark F1 Veteran

    Jan 1, 2007
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    Norway
    It is always somehow comforting (in a strange way) to read about these obnoxious car tax policies in other countries, because we have a fair share of insane prices as well... Over here an F12 is approx. 750.000 USD, which is already a steep price, so my jaw dropped when I read about the 1,4M $ price!

    But congratulations to the OP, what a F-debut, hope it's worth it.
     
  9. pluto

    pluto Rookie

    Jun 2, 2011
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    actually in China the duty is not as high, a well-spec'd f12 is around 900K.

    and here they got brand new inventory for delivery with 10% off!
     
  10. TheMayor

    TheMayor Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    It's amazing how lucky we are in the US. A well equipped F12 can be had for $350K USD, plus maybe another 10% in sales taxes and registration fees depending in what state you live in.

    Sounds like your first F car is going to be an amazing car!
     
  11. jcosta79

    jcosta79 Formula 3

    Nov 15, 2011
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    Good Lord! $1.5M for an F12? Is minimum wage $200K/year in Singapore?


    :D

    Congratulations and enjoy it!
     
  12. PG77

    PG77 Karting

    May 23, 2011
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    Fortunately down here in Chile we are not affected by such high import taxes, here a couple examples from the list our friend from Brazil posted:

    $280K for a 458 Coupe
    $150k for a Cayenne Turbo
    $59k for a Mercedes C250 Coupe AMG kit
    $58k for a BMW M135i Hatchback
    $40K for a Cooper S

    Cheers!
    Pablo.
     
  13. jlonmark

    jlonmark F1 Rookie

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    That's a hell of a "starter Ferrari!" Good job
     
  14. F12Berlinetta

    F12Berlinetta Karting

    Apr 7, 2012
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    Perhaps, but I was looking at prices charged for second hand F cars in Europe, and I'm not so sure "lucky" qualifies as an adjective for us when prices there are 20% lower on average. Also, Pluto mentioned there being brand new inventory priced at a discount in China (yes, I understand that its a discount off of a very steep premium, but still...). I'm curious what my dealer would quote me for a production turnaround if I ordered an F12 tomorrow. You'd know better than most since you're in the queue.
     
  15. TheMayor

    TheMayor Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    We're talking ordering new cars here...

    10% discount still means 650K USD. I'll take $350 thank you!

    I can tell you that the queue at my dealer means delivery in about 18 months.
     
  16. Traveller

    Traveller F1 Veteran

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    I don't understand that. In the UK a Spider, unspecced, is £200k and an F12 £237k, an 18% difference, and yet in Brazil an F12 is 50% more?
     
  17. Sir_Ferrari

    Sir_Ferrari F1 Rookie
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    Here in Germany the F12 Berlinetta costs 268400 €, the 458 Italia 194000 €, the 458 Spider 221589 € and the FF 258200 €.
     
  18. FNewb

    FNewb Karting

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    Just following your lead Mayor.
     
  19. FNewb

    FNewb Karting

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    Thank you.

    F12 is indeed way OTT in every conceivable way.

    I have owned several Porsches and M cars along the way, but this will be my first V12.

    I have been to over 25 BMW M car training sessions in Europe at tracks such as the Nordschleife, Spa, Zaandvoort, and Mugello, so I have a fair bit of experience driving powerful cars at race track speeds.

    I am looking forward to driving the F12 at Fiorano and Varano later this year at the Pilota courses, so I will find the limits on somebody else's F12.
     
  20. FNewb

    FNewb Karting

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    There is no minimum wage in Singapore - free market and all that good capitalist stuff.

    Thanks, I will certainly do my best.
     
  21. MARK1992

    MARK1992 Formula 3

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    Congratulations Peter, can't wait to see it on the road.
     
  22. FNewb

    FNewb Karting

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    Thanks.

    I saw Singapore's first F12 at ItalAuto awaiting PDI yesterday.

    It was RC with a black interior. Glad to say that RC works well on the car.
     
  23. FNewb

    FNewb Karting

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    Got to start somewhere, right?
     
  24. FNewb

    FNewb Karting

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    Import duty of 30% is not the killer here in Singapore. It is the Additional Registration Fee (ARF) of 180% of the car's CIF value that really stings. It was formerly 100%, but was raised just over a month ago.
     
  25. chet

    chet F1 Rookie

    Jun 9, 2007
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    The offset is very low income tax and almost no capital gains tax in Singapore. Right, Peter?

    Congrats on the F12.

    I won't get to spec mine for another year or two.

    What happens of someone moves to Singapore? Are their cars subject to import duty?
     

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