Who Designed LaFerrari?

as Tony says ^^ and rightly so, and mentioned a few times already, the final design is the result of many many people, many influences, some revealed in this thread, and some not

the additions made to this thread, where (as already stated) to save making a duplicate topic thread, and to post as much relevant information is available on the subject, for our shared edification, without prejudice for the design, my own feelings irrelevant

the LaF is a technical wonder, discussed in detail elsewhere in threads on this site, and also the controversial arguments of it's finer design elements

no one here can answer for Ferrari's design team really, i certainly can't and won't, it's all speculation to be sure, however any specific example needn't be a point belabored on, or at least here, so what 'moving on' means

the fact is, like any major manufacturer, the cycle of student talent being sponsored, visited by, or hired on by Ferrari, is significant, and drawn from all over the world!


"Ferrari welcomes top students of Tsinghua University. The programme, organized by Ferrari in collaboration with the Politecnico di Milano, will involve three groups of students from the prestigious Chinese University for the next three years."

"The Newton Abbot College Technology Department"
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Yes Ferrari most likely owns the design, but I will keep challenging any posts in this thread that claim this isnt a straight copy. Microsoft stole DOS, the base that gives Windows life, but people think Gates is the big genius behind it all...
The LaFerrari's side mid section, as of now, is a direct copy of victor uribe's car design submitted in a past Ferrari contest... not designed by the in house Ferrari team or any other individual... I think people should know about it and others shouldnt try to put this under the rug or making it okay by saying... well no artist get real credit... or car designs are team efforts, the sky is blue... the fact is as of now, that its a straight copy. Credits to Victor, good design.

 

moving on....

"The LaFerrari’s driving position is an entirely new concept and draws heavily on F1. Both Fernando Alonso and Felipe Massa were directly involved in its development, resulting in a functional cockpit that is track-inspired, delivering the perfect marriage of tradition and modernity. The ergonomics of the LaFerrari’s driving position actually turn conventional road car concepts on their heads and has a design normally seen only in racing cars: the seat is fixed but both the steering wheel and pedal box are highly adjustable to accommodate the driver’s preferred position."

"The door panels are a genuinely integrated part of the cabin design as their sculpted carbon-fibre shells sleekly and efficiently hug its forms to afford occupants the greatest possible freedom of movement.The LaFerrari’s steering wheel is another clear example of Ferrari’s on-going commitment to the kind of in-depth R&D embarked upon in the Enzo. The car’s various functions are integrated on the wheel Formula 1-style. The gear-shift paddles are now longer and more ergonomic. The signature bridge on which the other F1 gearbox functions are clustered has taken on a sleek, suspended wing-like shape on which the buttons are arranged for optimal efficiency. Lastly, the satellite pods from which the instrument panel functions and infotainment (audio, sat nav and telemetry) are controlled have been moved, respectively, to the door and an island at the centre of the dashboard with the latter also including a very compact climate control panel. For the first time on a Ferrari the dash features a reconfigurable digital instrument panel which gives the driver the choice of either a layout featuring the traditional central rev counter or a much more competition-style display designed for track use."
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I think you need a refresher on rational IPL. You may also want to keep in mind that patents and the like have been overissued ever since the www explosion, leading to problems that stall people's lives and economies.

 

Jeremy,

I remind you that the Gumpert Apollo took the exact approach, both in order to save weight and keep the weight of occupants in a fixed location.

Does anyone know if La Doors and/or La Sidepods on La F70 contribute to downforce? Any idea how much? (I know the factory claims that the aero elements on the F12's bonnet could counter a tornado . . . )

 

LaFerrari's position is much more reclined and the feet are much higher. The Gumpert has a much more conventional seating position.

 

Thanks!

 

Jalopnik stirs the pot...

How Pininfarina Designed The LaFerrari Without Getting Paid For It

>8^)
ER

 

The P4/5C page is spamming my Facebook newsfeed with this link, shock..

Some people seriously need to move on.

 

You could always move on by unliking them instead of complaining about something you have complete control over.

>8^)
ER

 

It seems that Luca took that that article personally as I just received the following email from him:


April 1. 2013

Dear Jim de New York

I have just bought The Nurburgring and plan to demolish it.

Ciao

LUCA de MONTEZEMOLO

 

But I like seeing the P4/5C build/racing updates? I've followed the page for a very long time. I just don't really care for the laughable Jalopnik articles to be quite honest.

 

AP New York
April 1, 2013 11:30 AM

Ferrari sued over rights to classic auto design.


In a stunning move today, Jim Glickenhaus sues Ferrari for the copyright infraction of their legendary 1967 330 P4, considered one of the best looking cars of all time. Mr. Glickenhaus' claim is that the design is based on his "P4/5" and is seeking an injunction to stop the sale of all merchandise, images, movies, or sound recordings from distribution, including YouTube clips.

 

I didn't flle that suit the heirs of Drogo did...

 

Some Jalopnik writers seem to be stuck in a war against Ferrari, they always post whatever they can (even if not true) to flame them or to praise Jim.
Some people just can't get over their issues with Ferrari, even Chris Harris sort of did.

Bra-vo!! best of the day!

 

Pu-leaze!!! Talk about reaching for page views.

Reminds me of all the armchair quarterbacks who think they know how to win the Super Bowl without ever having thrown a football. Wanna be designers who like to hear themselves pontificate about design yet they've never lifted a pencil.

It's laughable and insulting.

 

It is indeed......I read it and laughed as well

Jalopnik is always good for a few laughs IMO

 

On the other hand is toiling away at VW design the best way to hone your Italian Super Car design skills?
CH

 

+1, I just read the article again. If I didn't know better I'd think it was an April fools joke, but the idiots at Jalopnik always seem to outdo themselves.

Anyway, interesting to note that Jim (Ex Ferrari customer that's still pissed off and bitter that Ferrari wouldn't supply him parts) and Erik (The world's biggest McLaren fan boy) still hold everything that Jalopnik has to say in very high regard.

 

Where did I say that I hold anything Jalopnik says in high regard? When I posted the link I said they were "stirring the pot" - do you really read that as a compliment of their literary prowess? I have a long history of criticizing Jalopnik's journalistic integrity and tabloid-esque behaviors. Get a grip - you're starting to believe the thoughts in your head again.

>8^)
ER

 

Nice dodge but you should really change your user name on Mclife to continue the charade.

 

In anycase, the LaFerrari looks great in pictures and I would probably *** on the spot if I saw the LaFerrari in Person.
Napolis's car looks uber cool and looks purpose built for raw power and ultimate exotica. If I ever saw that car in person I know I would be very intimidated and inspired all at the same time.
Seeing the Enzo and F40 inperson (and sitting in them) took my breath away, pictures don't do these cars justice.
Like looking at a Rembrant or Matisse or Monet you don't get it until you see it in person.

 

Excuse me?

>8^)
ER

 

I'm sorry. For a moment I went a little daft and thought my user name was 6th element.

You can stick around even though you post over there. No "stirring the pot" over there or.....

But we are getting off track. Let's stick to the story as it's more important and certainly much more interesting. I'm trying to figure out how people got into a time tunnel, went back to 1966, and designed a car in 2007 and 2013.

In all seriousness though, designers do share ideas and thoughts from one another. It's impossible to work in a vacuum and you can see influences and "borrowing" everywhere. Also, technology and regulations tend to make things appear similar.

Everything has been done before in one form or another. The trick is making what's been done before look fresh, new, and interesting. Some last the test of time (like round tail lights) and others look good and then fade away (like side strakes in the scoops).

And, what is and is not beautiful depends on who is the seer.

I showed my GF a picture of a 250 Lusso. She said, "What is that?". I said a Ferrari. She said, "No! It's ugly!" I said, it's perhaps the best looking car of all time. She said in her Ukrainian accent "you crazy!". She picked out what she liked: An F430 spider.

Think I'll have much chance of getting her to change her mind?