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  1. drbob101

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    I took my 97 355 in today to NJ DMV for inspection and it failed because they couldn't read the OBD. They are saying I need to fix my OBD so they can read it.

    Any ideas on where to go from here? I am thinking of taking it to an indi shop that does state inspections and hopefully get cleared without having to do anything, but was wondering if there is something I can do to fix this.

    Thank you for the help
     
  2. WATSON

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    was the OBD recall done on your car?
     
  3. drbob101

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    I didnt know there was an OBD recall and I dont know if it was done on this car.

    I'll call Algar on Monday and have them check.

    Thank you
     
  4. Monteman

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    I had a similar problem with my car but when they hooked it up to a second machine it worked fine. Finally, check the fuse. If the fuse is blown it can cause it not to read as well. Have had that happen too. Have you checked your OBD port with a reader to see if it can read?
     
  5. drbob101

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    No. I dont have an OBD reader. Is it useful? I'll get one. I was thinking the same thing on the machine issue but they didnt offer to do that in the line at DMV inspection.
     
  6. WATSON

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    #6 WATSON, Mar 30, 2013
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    It is a simple recall. It ties pin #4 to pin #5 and completes the ground of the electrical system. Without it, some readers will not connect to the car....that was no-no in the US.

    Ferrari issued a recall to fix the connector. It was $0.10 worth of parts and an hours time.

    If yours was not done, it is possible the scanner tool they use will not connect. Some work (like mine) some do not.

    Check here for more: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/136457100-post13.html

    Good luck.
     
  7. drbob101

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    If mine hasn't been done that sure explains it Watson. Thank you for the excellent reply!

    ps I did have the TR6 out last week as well :)
     
  8. drbob101

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    The recall was done on my car. I am going to go get an OBD reader to have for myself and check it.

    Any suggestions on a worthwhile reader?

    Thank you
     
  9. Extreme

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    I just had my inspection done a few weeks ago and at first the technician couldn't get the scanner to connect with my 99 355. On the second try it worked fine.
     
  10. drbob101

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    I went and got an OBD reader and sure enough it doesn't work. I checked all the fuses and they are fine. Ferrari of CNJ said maybe to dc the ground from the battery and wait a few minutes and let everything reboot??

    I have what I believe is full service records on the car and I dont see the OBD recall having beem done but Ferrari says it has. Maybe the recall was cleared with out it being done. The fix looks very simple and I guess I will at elast take apart the connector and see if the pin and bridge was added.
     
  11. Extreme

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    This might not work for your car however it works for mine.

    1) My car has the immobilizer so I have to deactivate it first.
    2) Then turn key to position ll .
    3) Turn on scanner or plug in scanner.
     
  12. drbob101

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    Erick..so the car is not started?
     
  13. Extreme

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    When I use my Innova 3100f the car is not started (key in position ll) it won't link to the car when it's running. After the link is made then I can start the car and it stays linked.

    I just went to the garage and verified. Hope this method works for you.
    I know it's weird I can't explain it.

    Here is the full version for my car
    1) dissarm immobilizer
    2) turn key to position ll (do not start)
    3) plug in scanner
    4) when computer link is established then I can start the car
     
  14. drbob101

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    Got it. I'll try that when I get home
    Thank you
     
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    #15 drbob101, Apr 1, 2013
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    That sequence didn't yield any results.

    I lookedunderthe dash and took this pic and it looks like the pin was added as per the photos in the recall campaign. Fof CJ suggested that i make sure that ground wire they added is indeed grounded or even ground it to the chassis rather than pin 5 so I guess thats my next task.
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    Sorry it didnt work for you.
     
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    pin 4 is grounded and connected to pin 5 so the recall was done properly.

    If there are any other ideas out there, Iwould be appreciative

    Thank you Erick for the suggestion. Frustrating.

    The PO had an exhaust ECU replaced. I am fishing here...

    Maybe the cold reboot of the system as was suggested may be worth a try.
     
  18. WATSON

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    My car must be running for the OBD scanner to recognize it.

    I have heard others just need the key in position II.

    Just an observation.
     
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    In the last 6 months, what work have you done (personally, or have someone else done for you) on the car before this issue?
     
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    #20 drbob101, Apr 1, 2013
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    all of the footwell fuses are OK. Nothing is DC behind the passenger seat. There are these 2 unplugged connectors at the bottom of the footwell fuse box area???

    I am a new owner of the car. The PO had an exhaust ECU replaced in 8/12 and an engine out major done in 3/12. He gave me all his service records.
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  21. drbob101

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    DC and RC the battery. No luck

    I give up. Off to the dealer
     
  22. yelcab

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    On some cars, the engine can be off and the key Ignition position for the OBD2 to work. On others, the engine has to be running before it works.

    On most cars, there is a fuse that controls the power to the OBD2 connector. On Ferrari, there seems to be more than one fuse. I suggest you check all the fuses and relays. Better yet, crawl down to the pedal well, and use a volt meter to see if one of the pins is actually 12V when the key is on. You only have a few pins and pin 4 and 5 are already ground.

    Then, if all those check out, the two serial control signals that are OBD2 go all the way to the ECU connector behind the seat. If there have been engine out work recently, maybe those connections have been disturbed to the point where the wires are broken or not making good contacts. I do not remember which positions they are but within the last 6 months someone did have a problem on that issue so a search may do you good. Possible search on OBD pins ECU connector. I remember he was having problem with CEL lights and went to do a full Gold Pin Update then he somehow misplaced a few OBD pins at the ECU connector. That post may give you positions of the OBD pins to check out.

    Good luck. That is about all we can do without touching the car.
     
  23. drbob101

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    #23 drbob101, Apr 2, 2013
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    Thank you Mitchel for the reply and you have a great memory. I had found that thread earlier that you referenced.

    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/348-355/391828-sri-gold-connector-kit-install-issue-no-obdii-now.html

    He said pins 87/88 were for the OBD. Can I just remove that connector at the ECU to inspect those pins? Just key off? Any precautions?

    I will do a voltage check on the other pins at the OBD plug to see if its getting 12v on any of them. I pulled and checked every fuse in the car that I am aware of. Both fuse boxes and they all seem fine. I will do that again as well.

    Thank you for the reply

    Are the pin outs for the OBD and the master connector available online somewhere?
     
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    On my '95, NJ MVC shoves an emissions checker up the tailpipes.
    Can't they do that for yours too?
     
  25. yelcab

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    Nope, The 96 and beyond in California requires an OBD2 connection to proceed.
     

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