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348 mods that make it faster

Discussion in '348/355' started by Dohangs, Apr 16, 2013.

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  1. Dohangs

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    Hey guys,
    I was just wondering if you guys know of any way to make the 348 faster? My brotherinlaw and I were in a rally and he was pushing it which was great. We were hanging in there with a lot of the cars but eventually they pulled away. He asked me if there is anything that could be done to increase the speed. It would be fun to have this car beat up on gallardos and 430's at next year's rally. Any ideas would be helpful, but I would want the to be easily reversed.
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  2. greyboxer

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    Someone will always spend more than you but the best way to make your 348 suitable for 2013 (illegal) street racing is to trade it for a 458
     
  3. fdekeu

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    No easy reversable mods to gain 250HP
    TURBO it or buy an Enzo
     
  4. Dohangs

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    That's a great answer. I figured I'd get some of these types of answers. I will be getting a 458 at some point but it would be fun to have a 348 that can keep up for a while with some of the newer cars.
     
  5. Nosevi

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    #5 Nosevi, Apr 16, 2013
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    It's the easily reversable bit that's tricky. Here's a couple of shots of a 348 in the UK that'll hang with most of the newer cars. Then when he hits the NOS many of them won't be that close :) There's also a couple of twin turbo conversions that put the power up to what you want but they're not really reversable.

    But then, why bother? Why not just accept it's a great car for it's age. Put it next to any road-going ferrari of any model (bar an F40), that was made before or around when the 348 was launched, show them a track and there's only two that'd give it a run for it's money - one of which is a V12 with 1.6 liters more on tap and the other is a twin turbo, and even those wouldn't really beat it - pretty similar pace actually. For it's day it was a great car. Love it for what it is. Your car though, obviously. :)
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    #7 Nosevi, Apr 16, 2013
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    Ernie read that thread a while back, so cheers. Lead me to just make some minor tweaks such as maf grills out, high fliw air filter, high fliw sports cats, less restrictive exhaust system (custom supersport). Made a big difference, especially to the pickup/ throttle responce. No idea of a bhp increase but certainly feels better. Thanks :)

    Edit: As a complete fluke when I was writing the above I just got an advert through my email inviting me to buy some new wheels for my 458 (which I don't have). They've been reduced - now only about £7000 (about $10,000 I guess?) Think I'll stick with my slow 348 thanks :)
     
  8. bobzdar

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    Put a 355 motor in it, that'd make it similar in speed to a 360. There's not much you can do to get it to where it can hang with a 430 or 458 that wouldn't make it a stick of dynamite with a lit short fuse.
     
  9. Nosevi

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    But then for the cost you may as well part-ex it and get a 355 - at least you'll get the aero enhansements as well. (And that's probably what you'd sugest, pete :) )

    The 348 is an old car now. You can throw money at it to up the performance (koenig in europe do an 'upgrade' to take a 348 to 520 BHP, but you'll be throwing as much money at it as buying a 430, and given any track short of an oval my money would still be on the 430.
     
  10. plugzit

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    Add lightness.
     
  11. bobzdar

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    I was under the assumption that he preferred the 348 styling (and steering feel, of course), so the easiest way to make it faster would be to grab the whole rear cradle trans and all from a 355 and bolt it in. You'd have to grab a 355 shifter and linkage as well, but doable. You could sell the 348 rear cradle for similar money if cost were a concern. Then you'd just have to invest in an engine management system and a little bit (ha) of time to get it running...Voila, 348 with 355/360 performance.

    Or if you don't care one way or the other for the styling, trade it for a 355 and invest in some driving lessons.
     
  12. Nosevi

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    :)
     
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    Should that read, remove weight? :p
     
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    Uh, that would be FAR from easy. But why go to all that trouble, when he wants his 348 to be faster. He didn't say what should I trade my 348 for. He asked how to make his 348 faster.
     
  15. taz355

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    I am not sure how good of a driver you are and this is not to be taken as an insult but driving lessons for most will get you the biggest bang for your buck quite obtain. I know when I raced super bikes in the early 90s 140 hp full super bike and me would get passed by a 100 hp super sport bike and a pro rider with more experience.
     
  16. bobzdar

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    I never said easy, I just said easiest. There is no easy way to extract significantly more power from any Ferrari engine that I'm aware of.
     
  17. Ingenere

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    When I had my 348, the following added a very healthy 'kick'...

    Tubi
    test pipes
    ECU tuning from Veloce Performance
    K&N filter

    Ask Chucabra how 82589 goes.
     
  18. plugzit

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    I quoted Colin Chapman.
     
  19. ernie

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    I was just busting your balls Bruce.
     
  20. ernie

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    As for my mods they are:

    maf screens removed
    larger fuel lines
    tapper ported tb's
    ported intake runners
    hi-flow cats
    hi-flow muffler
    sequential tri-y headers
    Spider ecu mapping

    The combination of those modifications upped the output of my car to roughly 332hp at the flywheel.
     
  21. Reddesire

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    Here in Oz at the moment there is perhaps $10 - 20K between a good 348 and a decent F355 or even the odd 360 with a few km's on the clock.

    I own a 348ts and love it, even its stock 300Bhp. You can chip it for 1-2K and get an extra 30-40 bhp then a tubi for the sound and a few more hp. However if you get into the big ticket items like heads, turbo's or god knows what then with that extra hp you will need upgraded brakes, maybe clutch, suspension and who knows what else to handle the extra power and performance. The money you spend will see you easily into a F355 at 380 bhp (sorry if I got that wrong 355 boys) or a 360 with even more hp and the technology to handle the extra power.
    Unless you are overwhelmingly in love with the 348 shape and style (and yes it is unique and beautiful!) I think you’re better off being patient, save your pennies and upgrade if you’re not getting the Ferrari experience you’re looking for out of your 348...
    For me I do, absolutely, but even that wouldn't stop me upgrading one day if I am lucky enough...F430's are plummeting in price at the moment. You want modern day power and performance aim for one of those in a few years time like I am !!
    Reminds me of the years I spent as an owner of an Alfa Montreal. A really beautiful GT. There were the purists (like me I guess) who restored it and enjoyed the 200 Bhp it offered with its silky smooth and comfortable ride. Then there were the guys who decide they wanted a cheap Lambo and went to town on it to turn it into a modern day fire breather. To them I used to say a similar thing, if you want a Ferrari…… buy a Ferrari, I did !?!?!  
     
  22. ernie

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    The fun is in the modification process. Yeah sure I could go out and buy a 355, 360, 430 etectera, but then I wouldn't have a 348. I like my 348, and I like making it faster. The other thing that's fun is when you go up against these modern cars and are able to hang with them. They think "hey let's beat up on the old Ferrari", but when that old Ferrari holds it's own, and in some cases hands them their ass, oh yeah lots of fun. :D

    And in case some of you may not know, stock SUCKS!
     
  23. angelis

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    +1
     
  24. Nosevi

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    Depends entirely what you're after, Ernie, depends entirely what you're after. If you are going to do it, why not do it properly and get the full Koenig setup that'll knock the socks off an F40? Owners of cars that have had this done may well say your performance "sucks" too. They're wrong of course but coming from a stripped out, lightweight 348 with well over 500 bhp, that may well be their experience. ;)
     
  25. ernie

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    Or how about chasing those 500 ponies naturally aspirated? I have been for a ride in a 700+hp 348TT, and it was wicked fast. If I decide to go down that road one day I know exactly the guy to get me there. But for now I wanna see how much power Ferrari left on the table naturally aspirated, and with bolt-ons. So far I'm up +32hp from 1990 specs, and I honestly think there is more power to be found.
     

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