yes, it's the standard of execution that makes the difference...the ebay one valve covers looks like they been executed alright.
A potential bidder/buyer contacted us about the car... Q...Seller says it is an 18,000 mile car but the ODO reads 01800? A...Offered in the Ferrari Market Letter in 1987 Ferrari of Los Gatos with 67,691 miles. Nuff said. Q...It was advertised previously with a sunroof but doesn't have one today, I'm confused? A...The sunroof was a simple design and often leaked. But worse, parts are hard to find if not unavailable. I would be less surprised if the top was welded/sealed/capped off versus a typo in the description TWICE many years apart from separate sellers within the car's history. (Listed in 1979 with sunroof, listed in 1987 with sunroof from a different seller). Q...Could there be a chassis number switch from a theft, etc. This car is black on black and again without a sunroof? A...Sure, stolen chassis numbers happen in the Ferrari world from time to time, but not usually on the "lesser" priced 308 GT4s. That's USUALLY too much risk for too little profit. if I were a thief I'd steal and renumbering higher end Ferraris. Car was once metallic blue with blue interior and black Boxer trim, repaints and color changes are common. ***So all said you probably have a 101,800 mile car that once (probably) had a sunroof and has changed colors. Otherwise it looks like a nice clean car. I'd not buy it based on the mileage and the fact that there appears (based on history of the car) to be an odometer discrepancy. One skeleton in the closet often produces more surprises. Could all of these issues be some kind of innocent confusion that's easily rectified... Sure, but probably not based on experience. That's my two cents.
WOW, Ed Niles, and now the FML on a GT4 thread!! I am feeling more important by the minute!!! BTW I really tried to get the exact look as the factory engine photo. I almost put the small bearing WP back in! HAAA
From what i've heard today, both the 90K green 308 GT4 and the 40 red 208 GT4 offered by Eberlein were sold yesterday on the Techno Classica (on the first day!). Both GT4's were in excellent condition and the 208 GT4 had a very low mileage from what i've heard. I guess that kind of shows that collectors have discovered the 208/308 GT4, as Bernardi also sold two 308 GT4 for 90K each last year.
I heard that the 308 GT4 will appear in the upcoming film RUSH by Ron Howard, so we will have to see if that affects he values of these cars at all, at least in a short term way.
That is not entirely true. Ferrari at that time had limited production capabilities and were also producing the Boxer and at one point the 308 GTB at the same time. This was also the worst energy crisis in the US at that time, which made all exotic cars hard to sell, the controversial design was also a problem as the Dino badge, but I think in the end the design which has grown very well over the years will be the deciding factor in their popularity. There was talk the 308 GTB was to be a dino successor at one point. I have seen factory photos of it with a Dino badge. I think in the long run the small production numbers and fewer of these cars surviving intact will increase their value. It does not matter to me as I do not intend to sell but I do think the GT4 time is coming. I posted here or on another thread, I am old enough to remember when the 246 was considered unworthy and not a ferrari and seriously looked down upon by many other "real" Ferrari owners. I also have a price sheet showing a GT4 new more than a 275! I think this is all academic, what is not is seeing Ferrari's very lame attempt to support parts for cars. I think what will eventually hurt the newer cars values will be very expensive and hard to find electronics, computers etc. I also think that all cars built while Enzo was alive will have more panache. Of course this is just my opinion..... Image Unavailable, Please Login
GT4 Serial number 14570 is back on the auction site. no affiliation, nor interested on that car....just fyi
as usual - no affiliation, just trolling Craigslist and there it was... For Sale: Ferrari 1976 Bradley, yours has a scarlet sister in NYC... seems a bit of a mismatch with the door trim and the recovered seats. Tell tale black dash and black armed steering wheel for the 208. Were'nt the rims narrower as well? Image Unavailable, Please Login
Holy $%&#! PSA, no affiliation...this might deserve its own thread, Copart. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
I remember this being for sale on Hemmings a while ago-I think he was asking for 40kish, so getting flooded was lucky! Well sold to hurricane sandy!
I think it's been on here before. At least flood damage carries a certain amount of dignity...which is more than can be said for what some previous owner did to the poor thing.
Gentlemen, Does anyone know about this black on black GT4 that just went for $22,600 on Ebay this past weekend? Ferrari : 308 Factory in Ferrari | eBay Motors It sounds too good to be true. Any thoughts or information about its past? Thanks, Evan
I'll bite...see post 310 in this thread...call the seller at 949-302-1773...it's usually not this easy!
Lorzen, Thanks very much for directing me to post 310. Ouch; that was scathing. I have been wondering if I missed "the one", but it is now clear I probably dodged a bullet. The black on black combination was mesmerizing. If anyone hears of a good one, I am interested. Thanks again and thanks to Ferrari Market Letter for an outstanding bit of detective work. Evan
@evan What coast are you on? May be some good bones here? Price: $12,000 Call Today: (508) 238-4224 1975 Ferrari 308 GT4 Red. Needs #6 piston and cylinder re-work. Decent shape, solid complete driver Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Hi Lorzen, Thank you very much. I am in NYC and this car appears to be somewhere in Massachusetts. I would prefer to find an example where someone smarter and more patient than me did all the work in advance, but that might be a rare and expensive set of circumstances. I will give this person a call and see what happens. Thanks again! Evan
Agreed. The above car will need a "fat wallet". Good to hear you are in NYC, perhaps when (if) Phil gets his car you will be able to see (did he say?) "the nicest Dino GT4", and perhaps an other at one of the meets. Cheers!
Speaking through experience, the car with most of the work done may be rare (although i do feel more Gt4's are getting better care these days..) but it will most certainly be cheaper than the car requiring work, even if the car with needs had decent bones, and probably by a large margin. And, you get to drive the good car right away, which may not be the case with the cheaper alternative. Dont get me wrong, i am enjoying the work I am putting into mine, and I am learning a hell of a lot that I would never have learnt had a bought a great car (probably as much about myself as the car) but if thats not for you, buy a great one first up! Guy
There is a silver one on ebay but confusing. Looks to be a Euro but is a 75 with a sunroof. I cant believe how everyone destroys the poor steering wheels on these cars. I have a small collection of wheels and really think that they are one of the focal parts of the car.... I do understand this though as I have never seen anyone who can repair a momo wheel which is weird. There is even a 1.5M Daytona Spyder for sale nowwith a shaggy looking wheel! Image Unavailable, Please Login
I drove my 'nicest gt4 in the world!' (Tm) yesterday, and it was amazing, although it doesn't have original trunk carpet, so it may be the second nicest now...
