which one to buy from these 3 Ferrari cali?

The Stratstone Cali is my old car. It has had a number of updates to it including the exhaust manifolds, which was a problem on earlier cars and the sat nav was updated to 2012 maps. I looked after the car and made sure that it had all the updates.

The Lancaster Colchester car looks pretty good and is well speced. It has the Curio interior which is very European, and a bit darker than the Creme that my ex-car had.

Out of the 3 the Lancaster car looks the best IMO.

 

Did they charge you much to update the maps?


btw agree the Lancaster car would be my choice

 

Lancaster car. Aside from more sensible value, it has the carbon fibre driver zone and GPS surround which lifts the interior quality markedly.

 

Not really, no, unless you are all very vertically challenged.

Strangely enough when I attended the launch in Maranello there was a bit more room in back than in the production cars. With roof up An adult of normal size will fit in the back crossways but that is about it in my experience, with roof down things get a little better, but not markedly so.

 

I agree that its lovely to meet people at the airport, but there is no chance of fitting four adults plus any luggage for 30 minutes in the car.
Where I have my drivers seat, whilst the back of it is not touching the seat behind, there is zero legroom.

 

Well it looks like it's going to be a while before my car arrives but judging from some of the Maranello test drive videos. It is possible, even though it will not be that comfortable. I think the main thing is to pull the front seats forward as much as possible while maintaining a safe driving position for the driver. The real challenge is probably how much luggage you can fit in the trunk... 2 bags?

Be aware that Ferrari does stipulate certain minimum passenger seating limitations for liability reasons and 4 adults will likely void that liability.

I think it's set out in the owner's manual.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=943WdqIXqro]It's possible to fit 3 (actually 4) medium-size adults in a Cali[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-EPenGtvII]4 adult-size persons[/ame]

 

Note roof is off which means very limited luggage. Roof on, impossible to get 2 adults in back

 

I think the updated maps was £250.

As I understand it, the way it works is the dealer pays something like £2500 for the update from Ferrari and then charge the customer a portion of this.

I used GrayPaul in Birmingham for map update.

 

The sat nav works ok, but is not as good as TomTom. I like the fact that it is built in and when it needs to advise you of a turn, roundabout etc it turns the music down and tells you. Also, it is easy and safe to view rather than having to pick up a phone to see what is going on.

I have tried to find a way of mounting my iPhone in my Cali but with no joy. I just leave it in the area under the centre bridge.

 

You will not get the stop/start option on the earlier cars, I think it was launched late 2010. In fact I have seen it on very few cars in the UK. It is not important to have.

The number of owners is not really an issue with a Ferrari. The main factors governing price are mileage and age.

The Lancaster one looks the best spec / price, but it is worth ringing around to see if dealers have stock that they are not advertising. There are only a few dealers to ring: Carrs, Meridien Modena, Dick Lovett, GrayPaul, HR Owen, Lancaster Colchester, Stratstone and JCT600.

When you have found the right car make an offer at least £5k / £6k below the asking price. Tell the dealer that you want to agree a price over the phone before coming to view the car.

 

Yes, I agree. Impossible to have adults in the back with the roof up.

In fact, as I alluded, the 4-adult seating in these Maranello test drives almost certainly voids the Ferrari liability as these rear passengers will likely receive head injuries in a roll-over.

This is not something you want to do at highway speeds.

 

I agree it's impossible to Cary 4 adults in the car, I quite often carry three but it's uncomfortable for the front and rear passengers because the passenger seat needs to be set very forward

If a car is homologated for four passengers, ie it has four seat belts then I'm not aware of any jurisdiction in the world where it is unlawful to carry passengers in those seats

There is no such thing as "Ferrari liability" in relation to how many passengers are carried or if the roof is down or up

If a car has seat belts, it's lawful to use them for passengers, roof up or down

 

I think you misunderstood what I meant. Xin asked about carrying 4 adults in a California so my answer pertained to adult passengers in the rear seats. I was not saying you cannot carry 4 people in a California. My reference to the YouTube videos I linked in also refer to adult-sized passengers seated in the rear.

Warnings from Ferrari are stated in the owner's manual regarding the rear seats. Rear passengers may not be taller than 4' 11". So if you were to have an accident and tall passengers riding in the rear seats sustain any injury and file claim for injuries and damages, Ferrari can and will indicate that you did not heed these warnings. The seats are only designed for children or very short adults.

Aside from the dangers of taller passengers being hit by the moving roof, because the car has roll-over protection in the form of the 2 self-deploying posts behind the rear passengers, the heads of those passengers must not exceed the height protection afforded by the posts.

Just so you understand, I'm likely to do the same thing as you are and I agree it's very unlikely that the car would ever roll over but it can happen. We just have to be extremely careful if we want to transport an adult in the back seat because it would exceed Ferrari's specifications.
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I totally agree with what has been posted.

I always have the top open if I carry anyone in the back seat.

I never put 2 adults back there. Usually a woman who can sit sideways and only for short trips.

It is just not a safe situation.

But when I had my 360, two girls sat in the passenger seat. I still don't know how they did it.
They were really thin I guess. That must have been totally uncomfortable too.

 

Malibu, where do you find these contortionist women and do they have any friends in the Toronto area who also fancy rides in Ferraris?

 

It's definitely not as simple as that. What caused the rollover? Was there any part of the design, construction, maintenance of the vehicle that formed part of the reason for the crash etc?

No manufacturer can remove his liability just because he writes something in the handbook. If the rear seat passengers suffered injury from operation of the roof because they were too tall (a situation expressly mentioned in the UK manual) they probably have a good chance of defending, but even then it's not guaranteed.

Hard world for companies these days.

 

The Ferrari warning does not say the height limit is only for the use or operation of the roof panel. It's very specific about a blanket height limit for the rear seat passengers.

As for your other statements about liability, I was only referring to injury caused by placing tall passengers in the rear seats. If the accident were to be caused by a system failure in the car that is altogether a separate issue and would be judged separately.

Don't get distracted dwelling on liability - the simple and important idea to take away from my comments is that the car is only designed to carry rear passengers shorter than 59 inches - PERIOD. If we choose to do otherwise, we need to take great care in doing so.