Has anyone here fitted one of these kits. I have heard good and bad things about Hi Spec kits from various forums I have looked at on the web. I am only after the discs and bells as I am using Ap Racing calipers front and rear. I had heard about discs warping. Any help or experiences would be helpful. Thanks Pete
I've used Hi Spec brake kits for a while now, granted not on a Ferrari's but I've they have never given any problems and have alwys proved a worthwhile upgrade. Never had to replace any disc's due to warping.
Thanks for the input Steve. I can't use the Hi Spec bells on Superformance as they are only 10 holes. They are suitable up to I think 290mm. I will be using 330mm discs as thats what my calipers are. Reyland seem to be the cheapest on the Ap spec discs. They can also sort out the bells too, so will post more details when I know exactly what offset etc.. I will be using.
Hi Guys Just saw this thread. My car is currently at HiSpec, they are developing a rear brake kit for Superformace (using my car as a test mule). I spoke to them last week and it will have a the same 310mm discs and 4 pot calipers as the front brake kit, but with slightly different bells and obviously the rear handbrake. Can't wait to get it back! Hopefuly getting the fronts done too. Should look cool.
It should be interesting how they sort the handbrake. I had originally planned 6 pots on the front and 4 pots on the rear, forgetting to take into account the handbrake. I decided to just go with 4 pots on the front. With the car being so much lighter over standard, it should make a huge difference with the Ap's
The rear brake is a 4 pot calliper with slightly smaller pistons than the front to maintain brake balance, the handbrake is a lever using a separate tiny pad, perfect for parking not so great for hand brake turns. Apparently it looks great, I have gone for red callipers front and back. hopefully I'll get my car back on Saturday.
Here are the first pictures of Superformance's new rear brakes and the front brake install. The wheels are !8" and I think the brakes fill the nicely. Sadly I haven't been able to drive it and test them as its chucking down, the batteries flat and the car is SORN at the moment.. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
You don't know how eager I've been for an update on this! Thanks for the pictures, get that car started up & hope real hard for a clear sky so you can try it out! In the meantime, you could pull the wheels off and give us some more brake pr0n to look at, please! I'm eager for driving impressions, try to discern if this has shifted the brake bias. Do you know what size pistons they specified in the front calipers? Do you know if it has the same pad compounds F&R? Does the pedal travel feel any longer, shorter, etc? Do you find yourself having to use more or less pedal travel to get the same amount of decel? (I was going to start making some guesses, but realized I've mostly forgotten how my brake sizing spreadsheet works in the several years since I've used it and, of course, it's not too well documented.) Aesthetically, your calipers look to have a conventional red paint type finish; the pictures on the Superformance website looked like the calipers had an anodized looking finish. Can you clarify? I see they've put the Superformance name on instead of HiSpec. The only negative there is that it shows the value of developing a logo for your business, haha! Thanks for being a guinea pig for the world and for any pictures and driving experiences you can share!
Hi Don I just took the car up the road, it feels completely different when you hit the brakes and it stops! Also a first.. the handbrake works, enough to stall the engine if I pull off. here are some hi res pictures, the brakes look cool. I guess on 16" wheels they would look HUGE! Even so they fill my wheels nicely. I thought they would have HiSpec on them, but they have Superformance, I can live with that I guess. They certainly feel a lot more positive, how ever I hit them like I was used to do and they locked up, so I need to be more careful. http://i509.photobucket.com/albums/s334/nickt_v12/DSC_6785.jpg http://i509.photobucket.com/albums/s334/nickt_v12/DSC_6788.jpg and a video http://youtu.be/ZpGlnyNFWcg Image Unavailable, Please Login
I just cleaned it, and man is it shiny. Sadly the demon rot has set in in a few places, so I will need to sort that out. Certainly the cleanest Ferrari in the road! (actually its the only one) Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Do the Hi Spec calipers have correct road dust/ water seals? and some form of reinforced pad plates? Only reason I ask is I had Hi Spec on my Caterham and they were full race spec ie no dust/ water seals the pistons seized in the calipers during a few months of non use (for info this was the problem 360CS's had with the Gen 1 carbon brakes) due to water dust getting in between the piston and caliper before the fluid seal Also the calipers did not have pad plates so the pad backs sat on the anodized aluminium body, eventually breaking through the surface and creating a groove stopping the pad moving correctly, eventually it caused the caliper body to crack due to the forces involved
I really don't know. Superformance sell them and I guess the know what they are doing, and they sell a lot of them 9the front kits) looking at the HiSpec motorsport website they seem to OK. My OEM ones seized solid so they didn't fare too well.
Well I tried it without the wheels and it looked silly, and it didn't handle too well. With these wheels on its awesome.
You know what neil, you think what you like.. I'm not going to get into a bun fight with a troll. This thread was about brakes not your invalauable opinion of my car.
The Superformance / Hispec brakes DO have dust seals. So no issue. Another thing that's nice to know is that Hispec will engrave the calipers with whatever you ask them for (top of my head) GBP 130. Of course, there is then Superformance to talk to as well, but I am sure that you could order from Hispec directly if you'd so be inclined. Good people to talk to. For my project car (see www.facebook.com/minottocars), I've had them do these: Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
HiSpec Motorsport - The home of Big Brake Kits With the front brakes being Billet 4 Radial And the rears look to be in the "SVA Billet4" corner. But the guys there will be able to tell. Again, very pleasant blokes to deal with. In my order, they forgot a few bolts, which they promptly shipped to me when I pointed this out. No questions asked, no extra shipping fees. They do mounting brackets and brake lines too. In fact, I'd be surprised if what Superformance sells wouldn't come from Hispec directly as a complete package, so telling them you want "The Superformance 308 package, but with custom engraving on the calipers" will most likely just work (Wish I had known that before doing mine. I'd have Dino scripted on them)
I have had these brakes on my car for a few months now and they are well and truely bedded in. When i took it for an MOT the garage owner commented on how superbly well the brakes wetre fitted and the level of detail. New cables, stainless brake pipes etc.. The car stops like never before. even in the wet i feel i can trust them.. The old brakes were rubbish in the wet and even with my modern tires i had no confidence in them. I used to have EBC green stuff brake pads, they made a difference over the OEM pads but the old brakes seemed to be on or off, even at Goodwood I struggled to keep the brakes in check and lost it on a couple of occasions resulting in a pant staining sideways drift round the lavant hairpin. The Hispec brakes seem different, much more progressive and easier to know what they are going to do next They also look great, the thing to remember is that these brakes have nothing to do with HiSpec, they are made exclusively for Superformance, they can only be ordered through Superformance, and I am not even sure you can change the wording on the calipers. In short they have totally transformed my car!! The combination of the wheels and brakes are great, add the Black stalion ECU (the total sum of the bits I have changed) and my car is much easier to drive then when i bought it.. Just need to add electric power steering now PS, and the handbrake works!!
I have a full set of big brakes for sale removed from my friends 308 as he went back to OEM set up... Brembo 4 piston radial mount mono blocks + 330 mm cr drilled rotors all round custom h brake calliper also set of new rotors only PM me for more dets. Cheers