Miura, the original supercar

I belive Sweden had the same emission regulations, with "closed" crankcase ventation system.

 

So, are there any (pictures of) other cars (be them US, Swiss, Swedish or ANY country) having this modification ? Please post them ?

 

VB driving a yellow Miura SV through Sant'Agata.
Unknown VIN, but not the museum car, as that sat inside when this car drove by.
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Its chassis 4856, a car that started life as a P400 3745, claimed by some to be an SV prototype.

 

RE: Chassis# 5000... still very original? Wow.. that is a great thing!

Can we please see more photos? Under the bonnets, the interior, trunk, etc...!

 

JasperLambo, when did you take the photo? Curious... I saw #4856 a few months ago and it had chrome side mirrors on it. The black ones do look a little better imo.

More about #4856.. as Joe mentioned, the owner believes this to be the Miura SV Prototype. (while others in Italia do not agree)

Joe, I think you are mistaken here... #4856 was born a P400, but not as #3745.

 

Andrew if you know different, please tell us which chassis number P400 this car was born as.

It seems the plot thickens at every turn with this car. It is associated with the chassis numbers 3745, 4856, and now you say there is a third number? Pray tell.

 

No problem sharing. Every number stamped piece of that miura has "157" on it... and as I am sure you can guess, this was particularly interesting to me. The only exception to this was the rear bonnet, it was stamped with a later number. No idea why the rivet tag has "450" on it.

Can you please post photos of original condition Miuras? You mentioned that you have sold a couple.. can you share the photos with us? This would be a great resource for those of us working to clean up our miuras and make them right.

 

Hi Andrew. today, 30th april 2013, 15.14 local time in Sant'Agata. The car is 'here' since at least a week or so? caught it on video on the 24th also ...

 

Now that's what you call a bitsa!

Between this thread http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/lamborghinichat-com-sponsored-lamborghini-houston/131246-miura-original-supercar.html and this book http://joesackey.com/the-lamborghini-miura-bible/ Ive pretty much shared all the Miura pics I possess. I'm not one to hoard anything, and I'm confident I share more than almost anyone in the creation of resources for these cars, so the images are out there.

How about you share some images of your Miura here? I am sure many would love to see.

 

After another Gandini interview today, I can close my research regarding the design of the Miura. It definitely is Gandini's whatever people think or say.

One day I hope to reveal all the details, starting with the pre-torino 65 period, going along the designs of the Porsche, Jaguar and Miura made between October 65 and March 66 with the numbers, dates and names of the collaborators of the designs made during the creation process of each car and finishing with the search sequence of all the details.

Joe, you say my article on the Miura was short on information (luckily you say). I agree but just now I can tell you that at the last moment there were a number of contradictions that still had to be solved, what I did during the last year. This was also the reason why the original Miura designs were not disclosed integrally.

I know I'm considered as a negative person (Joe) or as the 'élu' (Olivier) in this community but a compliment as the one in annex is worth more to me than whatever comment.
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Bravo!!

 

Joe, I did not say you were hoarding anything. I am just politely asking you (the guy that wrote the bible should have plenty of this sort of stuff) to post some original configuration Miura photos.

In recent years, the only such photos I have seen are of 3216. However, people talk about original Miuras here and there... let's see them. I am no Miura expert, but I have had the privilege of seeing good ones in years past.. but unfortunately I was not interested in Miuras at the time, so I did not photo the details for reference for my future car.


And of course, no problem seeing photos of my car. It is in the process of getting cleaned up, and misc items fixed, etc. But I will post some.

 

On Joes web site also look up 3598.

Cheers Jim

 

Excellent! We would love to see it.

I have posted or published what I have.

Best,

 

Thanks for pointing that out Jim. 3598 is very original.

 

RE 3598.. great looking exterior and passenger cabin! Can we see under front bonnet, the engine compartment, and inside the trunk?

Thanks again!!!

 

Andrew, all 19 shots I took of 3598 are posted here Blu Miura (3598) |

Sorry if they are insufficient for your purposes & do not cover the range you want to see.

The only under-the-hood shots front & rear I got were the 2 below, and that was because someone wanted to see what those particular tags looked like on original car.

3598 is owned by my neighbor, and he drove it over and the shots were made in front of our house. He was there for all of 10 mins and after getting the tags, I didn't think to shoot much more that day. He rarely gets the car out.

Another way to go about your quest for originality would be to post images of your car as it exists now. Then others who have as much or more experience than I do can comment. This way you will not have to do anything over, so to speak. Looking forward to images of your Miura.
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are the speakers placement in the sides of the center console tunnel stock locations?

 

I'd say that is a post-production application.

 

Here is the area I am working on now.. cleaning up the interior, and fixing this and that. The steering wheel just came back from being re-done. The ceiling center tunnel... the oval air vents, should there be a grommet or something in there? Or is the material just glued into the oval holes?

Joe, is the topic of original configuration Miuras taboo or something? With the exception of 3216, I have not seen detail photos from any other "original" Miuras. The reason I am asking you specifically is because you have talked about original / correct Miuras.. ones you had sold, etc... So just asking to see. I don't see what the big secret is? As you mentioned, I would like to do things right the first time, and not do it over. I can certainly post photos along the way, which is fine.. but then I am trusting chat room opinion - which is fine is some cases, and flawed in other cases... I would rather consider photos of original Miuras (if they exist) in making decisions on my car.

I guess that if the only detail photo'd original/correct Miura is 3216, I am out of luck. But if there is another photo'd in detail Miura that is correct like that, I would love to see it! Anyone?
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You already have my photos. It may be impossible to top 3216 for originality. However that car is not the best baseline for your car. There are many production changes between the two. Looking at the photos of your car, it appears to be very original. I would like to see more photos of your car since it appears to be a good reference point for a P400S.

Cheers Jim

 

Thanks for sharing!!

Image 1: The ceiling vent lever and is missing, and the vinyl could use re-gluing around the oval vents. Otherwise, all very nice & original.

Image 2: The seat insert fabric has been replaced at some point (no clue where to get the original material, very hard to match), and USA-manufactured seat belts (as opposed to Kangols) are in use. Otherwise, all very nice & original here too.

Image 3: Looks perfectly original.

I understand your frustration regarding images of original Miuras. No, it is not a taboo subject, or a big secret , original Miuras are rare, that's all. Rarer still are good images of them. Yes, I have 'touched' at least half-a-dozen original Miuras, but, although I wrote a Miura book, I don't consider myself the only source. But looking through this thread and my Miura book, I can see I have posted images of original Miuras such as 3216, 3598, 4170 (before it was retorted), 4958 (before it was restored), 4986, 5000 etc etc. I have even posted images of Kadoorie's owned-from-new original Miura S too (cant remember the chassis number offhand).

As far as the scope of my photography, it is what it is. Sometimes I have better opportunities to do detailed work than others, other times conditions or the opportunity is not ideal. These cars are scattered all over the globe, and owned by people who are quite mobile, so access is not always easy. Sorry if the images I have taken don't serve your needs, and once again, I understand the frustration. If you must have more images of original Miuras, you will simply have to look elsewhere besides what I have posted & published.

Having said all that, I think the best step forward in your quest has been posting images of your car here, so everyone can chime in and help you, because collective knowledge is far greater than that from just one source. That's why the Miura & Countach threads I started are so invaluable - the collective participation.

Great car, good luck with it!

 

Just yesterday, I thought of your car as being one of the very original ones. I am sure if Andrew goes through the entire Miura thread quite a few others we have forgotten about will reveal themselves.

 

Andrew,

I tried to put together a montage of original Miuras that I have seen/dealt with/know of.

I didn't have time to list the chassis numbers, but pull the image off and they should show.

Anyway, it struck me that there are a fair number out there. Every one is posted in more detail within the Miura thread.
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