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  1. bellabarbas

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    #11526 bellabarbas, May 3, 2013
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    Around the question #11447 by TwiceBaked,(4-19-2013) the car used on the movie: Super Fly T.N.T. was the s/n 4737.
    The second owner was a famous pilot and the only one who drove the TN = Tazio Nuvolari (a Bugatti modified), Mr. Mario Mazzacurati.
    Mario Mazzacurati - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    He was born near Padoa, in the city of "Piove di Sacco" and I met him when I was a child in a Rome's tram. A very elegant man, with white mustache and a gold pin of the trident.
    Years later I heard that his daughter had married a famous architect from Rome and after my counsel a famous writer she contacted but find only few photographs of the races in South Africa and not pre-war photos.
    The legend says that it was a relative of Tazio (not true, told me his daughter) and that he had discovered a significant diamond mine in South Africa.
    Mazzacurati won the Grand Prix of South Africa 1936 with a Maserati.
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  2. MiuraP400

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    Nice to hear, Thanks Joe. I agree about this thread, I know I have learned a lot.

    Cheers Jim
     
  3. MiuraP400

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    Interesting document, Thanks for posting. I wish I understood more Italian than I do so I could read it properly.

    Cheers Jim
     
  4. alberto

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    Andrew: 3216 is not the best baseline for your car. To state the obvious, yours is an P400S, while 3216 is a P400 (not so obvious). The differences, particularly in the interior, where they made substantial changes, are significant between the two models. Thus, there are substantial differences between them, in practically all areas of the pictures you have posted.

    I doubt Joe is hiding much in terms of pictures; I can't imagine how you'd publish a book and "hold back" a lot of pictures. I, for one, tend to take detail pictures of whatever I am obsessed with, err, check that, ..... working on at any particular time which unfortunately means I don't have much to share from an overall perspective and almost all of it is related to P400's.

    There is no instant gratification when it comes to finding out details on these cars. They are too rare and too many have been messed with over time. There are a LOT of restored cars out there that are incorrect, but because so many have been restored that way everyone thinks that's an original feature. There are no black and white answers for these car.
     
  5. kc023515

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  6. nima mojiz

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    Hi guys
    I'm a car fan from Iran and it's a while I'm trying to gather information about Miuras that came to Iran and stayed or the ones gone.
    The ones I found where #3138, #3153, #3303, #3540, #4870, #4934 and maybe #5078.
    There's another problem with the TEH88540 and TEH88847 number plates. There are two pics of a dark blue Miura, each one persenting one of the number plates abow. Does any one know anything about those two cars?
    The other problem is the initial owners of #3138, 3153 and 3303. Who bought them new?
    I can also add some info about the ones I mentioned.
     
  7. Jasperlambo

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    I (for one) am very interested to see what comes out of the hole ... how deep is it in the meantime ? ;)
     
  8. miurasv

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    You may already have seen the info at www.miuraregister.com. See below.

    3138 Miura Register

    3153 http://www.themiuraregister.com/miura/register.php?id=75

    3303 http://www.themiuraregister.com/miura/register.php?id=101
     
  9. SAB

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    Big feature on the Miura in the new issue (June) of Classic and Sports Car including the front cover photo.

    "As Lamborghini celebrates its 50th anniversary we take a closer look at the firm’s halo model and the world’s first supercar – the Miura.

    For years debate has raged over whether the Miura’s beautiful shape should be attributed to Giorgetto Giugiaro or Marcello Gandini, so we settle the argument once and for all with the definitive story.

    Then we get behind the wheel of the legendary Lambo to confirm just what all the fuss is about, before talking to one lucky owner about driving the car day-to-day.

    And if you are, or could be, lucky enough to buy your own, we talk to an expert about how to choose a good one.

    Then we take a look at another of the Raging Bull’s landmark models – the Countach."
     
  10. jimmy

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    3739, a P400, is for sale at Bonhams Spa Classic on 25 May. Fantastic colour combo, Bleu Miura over silver. The blurb emphasizes the restoration at the factory's Centro Restauro, so I would assume details are correct. But the car has chrome windscreen surround and rocker overhead switches, which I thought were typical of the P400S, not the P400. Is this just a late P400 car, with these features being part of the "morph" to the S?

    Bonhams 1793 : Factory restored under the supervision of Valentino Balboni,1968 Lamborghini Miura P400 Coupé Chassis no. 3739 Engine no. 2502
     
  11. espada1952

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    This car is very S spec aswell has having an S interior [it does have winding windows from an early car ?] it has ventilated front discs which I think only became available on later S ? also the badges are from an S and the cooling fans {Countach/ Diablo ?} i have seen factory restored cars before and they are normally upgraded rather than original spec as I think they think the later stuff works better,but I am not sure.

    Stephen Keen
     
  12. silver1331

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    this car has been on the market for quite a while, right? beautiful color combo...
     
  13. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

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    I agree entirely. I think Andrew's focus on 3216 was because it represents a truly unmolested Miura, but its the wrong variant, and as you know, they made constant changes along production.

    I think you summed up the difficulty he is facing very well by stating they are too rare and too many have been messed with.

    I do however think there are a few P400S in the early part of this thread that we have long forgotten about which will be helpful.
     
  14. joe sackey

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    My notes say it has been variously for sale here & there since 2009.
     
  15. joe sackey

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    :) Remember, this is the Lamborghini section, where drama is good for business!
     
  16. joe sackey

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    My understanding is that these green-on-white license plates were Government plates and they were swapped around various cars. Of course, I cannot conform this.
     
  17. joe sackey

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  18. nima mojiz

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  19. spadge1976

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    Final paragraph of the Classic and Sportscar article on the debate surrounding who designed the Miura:

    As another leading stylist, who wishes to remain anonymous, said:"The designer of the century cannot come to terms with the fact that the design of the century isn't his work. Without doubt the Miura is the work of Marcello Gandini and Giugiaro had nothing to do with it."
     
  20. spadge1976

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    One statement in the article raised an eyebrow:

    "The best cars-Euro spec,spit sump and preferably not red-are closing in on the million-euro mark"

    So says respected international market expert Simon Kidston.

    I was surprised to read that red cars were considered less desirable - in my opinion, the red/gold Miura is the definitive, iconic colour.
     
  21. miurasv

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    The Iranians seem to like their Miuras with the wrong wheels. :)
     
  22. joe sackey

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    #11547 joe sackey, May 6, 2013
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    Who is the gentleman standing next to SVJ 4934?
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  23. NürScud

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    What a picture.!! Love it.!!
     
  24. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

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    Funny thing is I took that image with insurable interest in mind - it just turned out to be quite cool.
     
  25. Str8shooter

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    #11550 Str8shooter, May 6, 2013
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