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Miura, the original supercar

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  1. RHS

    RHS Formula 3

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    Hi Joe,

    That picture is of the Garage in Niavaran Palace after it was taken over after the revolution. It was published in the local newspapers. The guy next to the car is one of the officers who was assigned to look after the palace to prevent looting etc. I beleive the picture of the car is of the SVJ, as that car was kept at the palace rather than the Imperial Garage. The two Rolls Royces next to it were used as ceremonial cars. with one, a landaulet, being used for the anniverssary of the 2500th year of the Monarchy in Perspolis.

    The Garage of the Palace is now a museum where the two Rolls Royces as well as a number of motorcycles, bicycles, golf carts etc are all on display by a curator who does her best to keep to keep the vehicles in excellent condition.

    Just my two Rials,

    Ramin
     
  2. RHS

    RHS Formula 3

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    Hi Joe,

    The plates are an old version of transit plates used on vehicles when they leave Iran. They are issued by the local Touring Club under FIA auspices. I.e if I drive car out of Iran, I have to use these plates so as to be able to travel through other countries without having to pay Carnet etc. Our entry in the 1997 Peking to Paris Rally (three cars - vintage locally assembled Hillman Hunters) all had plates that were nearly identical to these plates. As the cars in question were taken out of Iran, they were probably issued these plates.

    Regards,

    Ramin
     
  3. nima mojiz

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    #11553 nima mojiz, May 6, 2013
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    Yes, that's all the story.
    SVJ used to be shah's favorite car and was the only one kept in Niavaran Palace besides Rollses and Merc 600 Limos.
    And about the wheels of the white Miura, this one was found lacking wheels and the only wheels they could find to fit was a Ferrari 330 GT's.
    Sadly all the cars kept in that so called museum are in near terrible state.
    Here's another picture showing Shah in his SVJ and his daughter.
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  4. RHS

    RHS Formula 3

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    Hi,

    Awesome picture ! Damet Garm,

    Ramin
     
  5. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

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    This is actually the Shah in his P400 chassis number 3303, Miura Rosso (orange)/Bianco, completed at Sant Agata on the 9th of February 1968. Likely at his St Moritz residence judging by the snow.
     
  6. nima mojiz

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    I think you are right!
    As you allways are.
    They recently added his dark brown Spada and Silver Bizzarini to the so-called Museum too.
     
  7. Jota 5084

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    Great pic! Is this image from a Facebook group?
     
  8. nima mojiz

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    I found this on the internet and I don't know where. I posted it on our "Classic Cars in Iran" group.
    I've recently read heard about two or three other gentlemen (carpet dealers) who used to own Miuras, Dinos, Daytonas and some other exotics back in ther early 70's.
    Mr Ferdowsian also used to own #5078 when he lived in Paris.
     
  9. RHS

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    Hi Joe,

    Isn't this the one that was bought by his son, restored and is still in his keep ? If yes, did this car leave Iran before or after the revolution ?

    Thanks in advance for any input,

    Regards,

    Ramin
     
  10. joe sackey

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    Ramin, my thinking (& its just a thought) is that 3303 either left before the Revolution, or possibly never went there. When I spoke to his son in DC a few years ago, he did not indicate he had a Miura (he had some interest in 4870 at the time).
     
  11. RHS

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    Hi Joe,

    I will check on this. From your answer though, it would seem that this is indeed the one currently in his son's keeping. Correct ?

    Regards

    Ramin
     
  12. joe sackey

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    I'm not sure about that. As I said, when I spoke to him in DC a few years ago, he did not indicate he had a Miura. He did say he had some interest in 4870 which I owned at the time.
     
  13. joe sackey

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    #11563 joe sackey, May 7, 2013
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    A thought occurred. The Italian Job Miura was the same rare orange/white liveried car as 3303. St Moritz is not that far from where the opening scene of the movie was filmed. The car Brazzi was driving was not the destroyed one and was described as a "customer's car" borrowed for the scene.... I'm just saying :)
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  15. RHS

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    Hi Joe,

    The Miura registry states:

    "Delivered new to Shah of Iran. 1980s- Car fully restored in UK for Shah's son. 1993- Shown at Louis Vuitton Concours d'Elegance, Hurlingham Club, London. Now has 11,000km."

    Given the sentimental value of the car, anything is indeed possible. It says the dealer is called " Sadegh" which is an Iranian name. Any thoughts ?

    Best Regards,

    Ramin
     
  16. joe sackey

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    Indeed, they might have it and keep it discreetly, and I would not be surprised if he simply didn't mention it to me when he spoke about my SV.

    Sadegh could simply be the name of the person in the Shah's inner circle who ordered the car for the Shah.
     
  17. sumlin

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    Am I right in thinking the Miura shell that went down the ravine in The Italian Job was a crashed car? In fact, I searched and I already posted this:

    "The one tipped over the cliff was an engineless wreck, I think the story was that it was owned by a Shah or a Prince and they wrecked it and it was returned to the factory. You can see it's engineless as it goes over the cliff. The crew said they returned for filming the next day and no parts could be seen in the ravine"

    Did the Shah own the crashed car and the one we see driving at the start was the replacement?
     
  18. nima mojiz

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    Any info about other people who bought Miuras in Iran?
    I've heard something about carpet dealers who used to have Miuras.
     
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  20. joe sackey

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    I like the way you think :)

    See, there might be a Shah link with the Italian Job after all...
     
  21. joe sackey

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    My understanding is that the owner of Miura SV 5078, one Tehrani Hamed Ferdowsian who bought it new and collected it at the factory, was a carpet dealer.

    Separately, my understanding is that "carpet dealer" covers a broad range of activities.

    By the way, 5078 never went to Iran. It lived mostly in Paris where it was seen in nice places, and sometimes in Amsterdam.
     
  22. joe sackey

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  24. RHS

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    Hi Joe,

    I was just wondering if he had any interesting anecdotes or memories of the Miura's that his father owned (or perhaps some other cars). There is a memory his nephew shares as to how he hoped that he would be given the SVJ after graduating Harvard and joining the airforce, but was given a Ghibli instead after being told "you can have any car... except that one".

    You are right about the possibility that the name could be from someone from the inner circcle, or someone sent from the local Embassy (as was common practice) authorized to pick up the car.

    Best Regards,

    Ramin
     
  25. joe sackey

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    The Shah's son was pretty polite, straightforward and brief.

    The Shah's nephew was far more expressive and shared lot's of stories most of which I'm sure you already know.

    I too have heard that the point of contact with the Lamborgini factory was an Embassy official out of Rome.
     

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