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  1. jm2

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    I think once you see them on the road in traffic you just might change your mind on the rear end.....time will tell :)
     
  2. anunakki

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    My only hangup are the tailights and thats simply because they remind me of the Camaro...which I despise. Just thinking about that car makes my stomach turn.

    :D
     
  3. jm2

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    Try 2 Alka Seltzers.
    Or maybe some Pepto Bismol..........and get back to us in the morning. :)
     
  4. leead1

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    #29 leead1, May 17, 2013
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    John noticed on your profile your V

    I drove one of those recently and was very impressed.

    Question: Did you like your 355 ferrari? Also did you have good luck with it?

    Lee
     
  5. leead1

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    The tail lights have been a bone of contention with alot of Vette people and they are different. I like the tail of the new vette but repect you opinion. We will see how the sales go after the big rush to be first to own one is over. GM had to something different the Vette was getting stale looking.

    I personally like the looks of the new vette and the lines seem at least in pictures a big improvement over the C6. We will see :)

    Thank you for your post

    Regards

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  6. jm2

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    I had great luck with the 355. The engine out service at an unbelievable price is what gave me heartburn. :)

    Glad you liked the V. I just love mine.
     
  7. TheMayor

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    There's more Camaro "cues" than just the tail lights. The cut on the side is identical.

    To me, this was a missed opportunity to distinguish the Vette from Chevy instead of follow. There's a bit of laziness revealed in their lack of boldness.
     
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    #33 blackdr, May 18, 2013
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    I dont know honestly for me its the grill that seems to be my biggest gripe in my mind, kinda wish they had gone with this sort of boss mustang like front grill for it

    at 3:04 here

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOlDDm7uUW0]Because Corvette Stingray C7R RaceCar - SHAKEDOWN - YouTube[/ame]

    and then maybe added more color to the back end instead of having the entire lower half of the car blacked out sort of like on the testarossa

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e8/1986_Ferrari_Testarossa_being_unloaded.jpg/800px-1986_Ferrari_Testarossa_being_unloaded.jpg

    to get the color balance just right, along with just having the corvette lettering in the back instead of the new flags which somehow just dont look right to me.

    I dont know I just kinda get the feeling it could look better with some work, I'm still trying to get used to it basically.

    but those photos you posted of it in person look much better than anything I've seen thus far of the car, who knows maybe my opinion will change once I see one in person.


    and I'm kind of curious about how the roof is rigged up compared to say the C3 two piece targa roofs.

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    I dont know I guess the best way I can describe how I feel about it is I kinda feel like Mr Scott when he first saw the new excelsior in the third star trek film, its gonna take awhile to get used to it.
     
  9. leead1

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    #34 leead1, May 18, 2013
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    Yes that can be expensive. A few years ago I was looking at and drove the Tesarossa. Sorry I am sure I spelled it wrong. But decided against it because every 3 years the engine out service was required. it would give me heartburn also.

    On the positive side the 355 is a beautiful car, just stunning and always will be in my view. This car and few others are what gave ferrari its name.

    Enjoy your V. While I was driving it I was muttering to myself "this is a cadillac right? They have it all , luxury and performance!

    I had driven a 600 hp Bently a month ago. My thought was I will buy one of these when it gets hard to get into my sport cars. The V Caddy is as good and fraction of the cost . Classy also great appearance in and out.

    Lee
     
  10. You will. My friend that is working on the car was at my house last night. He said the car is unbelievable. He also said there is close to 10,000 deposits on the car already. They are still dealing with glitches, but most are vendor assembly line issues like needing something packaged in a certain way to aid assembly.
     
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    #36 leead1, May 18, 2013
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    I am one of the deposits. I saw the show car version in NYC at the NY car show. It looks like they have changed it from that show car but that always happens.

    I am supposed to get mine Sept to Dec time frame. As I have posted I sold my 2009 ZR1 and miss it alot. I know the base motor is only 450hp but I am told the car is lighter for gas milage so it will be better performance than you would think tho not ZR1 of course.

    Corvette has got better over the years and I like it better than my 458 for handling and off course power. My point is this new 7 should fell better than C6 it replaces. At least they have always been better before.

    I am excited :)

    Lee
     
  12. According to my friend it is indeed better, faster, tighter, and even sounds different in a good way than the C6. He is off the charts excited about the car.
     
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    Cool shot! 'Vert looks more like a 'Vette to me. Not a knock on it or the coupe, though - like da both of 'em. Seems roofline/quarter window advance the coupe a bit.
     
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    #40 jm2, May 20, 2013
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    designer knows crucial launches produce a love-hate response


    Interview with Tom Peters,Design Director for the C7:



    Tom Peters with the redesigned Silverado: Owners “didn't want it outrageous or over the top.”





















































    Mike Colias
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    May 20, 2013 - 12:01 am ET

    SAN ANTONIO -- Chevrolet designer Tom Peters describes the blocky, chiseled front end of the 2014 Silverado pickup as a "fist in the wind."

    The metaphor also could describe the resolve Peters needs to weather his critics as the lead designer for two of the most closely scrutinized vehicles on the planet: the Silverado and Corvette.

    Peters, 58, is head of Chevy's performance-car and full-sized pickup design studios. That put him atop design teams for both the redesigned Silverado and the seventh-generation Corvette Stingray -- both about to become General Motors' highest-profile launches since its 2009 bankruptcy.


    Tom Peters said that after taking heat for the sixth-generation Corvette, “I said, ‘I’m gonna let it loose. Nothing is sacred.’” One result was the radically altered rear end of the redesigned seventh-generation Corvette, which he sketched at a Texas event.


    That's pressure enough. Then factor in the cultlike following of both nameplates, with fan bases spawning online forums that can generate hundreds of comments on, say, the 2014 Stingray's controversial squared-off taillights.

    "The Camaro-ish lights are absolutely awful and have no business on the back of the Corvette," fumed one commenter on a Motor Trend story.

    Aside from the back-end brouhaha, the European-tinged Stingray design that Peters' team penned has received wide praise for injecting some needed swagger to appeal to younger buyers.

    The reception for the Silverado's exterior design has been less generous. Many car critics and dealers have derided the truck's look as too conservative, especially given the edgier styling of the recent entries from rivals Ford and Ram.

    Lanky and affable, Peters is eager to explain the endless hours of customer clinics and clay-model tweaks that precipitated key design decisions. He's as quick to defend his team's work as he is to embrace the barbs as worthy feedback.

    "I listen to it. Perception is reality, whether you agree or whether it's even accurate," Peters said. "You've got to have thick skin."

    Silverado owners queried by his team "didn't like a lot of frivolous stuff, added chrome bits, fine detail lines," Peters said. "They didn't want it outrageous or over the top. They wanted tremendous functionality and a high level of refinement."

    He has become adept at fending off flack from purists about the Stingray's
    tail.
    Even in San Antonio, on a dusty ranch where Chevy held its Silverado test drive this month for the automotive press, Peters gravitated to the topic without being prompted.

    "We even tried round taillamps on the thing. It looked old on the car," he said. The angular lights, he insisted, "say Corvette in a new, modern, unexpected way."

    The dust-up is nothing new for Peters. In a 30-year GM career, the New Mexico native has worked on a broad range of projects with varied levels of success, including the acclaimed Cadillac Sixteen concept and the universally panned Pontiac Aztek, which landed atop more than a few lists of the ugliest vehicles ever. Peters said the Aztek design got away from him amid creative differences with Wayne Cherry, then GM's design chief.

    When Chevy unveiled the sixth-generation C6 Corvette in 2004, also a design overseen by Peters, many enthusiasts concluded that the styling wasn't a big enough departure from that of the previous generation. The most noticeable change was also a controversial one: ditching the hideaway headlamps that had adorned every Vette since 1963. Car and Driver dubbed it "the C5 and 11/16ths."

    The criticism "didn't feel good, because I felt like the C6 was a good design," Peters said.

    If anything, it steeled Peters and his team to go big on the Stingray, which should hit showrooms by September. After the C6, "I said, 'I'm gonna let it loose. Nothing is sacred.'"

    That penchant for pushing boundaries is one of Peters' strengths, said his boss, Ken Parkinson, executive director of global Chevy design.

    "He's always pushing the team to question, 'Have we gone to the limits?'" Parkinson said. "He doesn't get down and dictate line and surface. But he sets the tone for what he's after, which is always this very passionate expression of what that vehicle is all about."



    Tom Peters, on dealing with criticism of his design: “I listen to it. Perception is reality, whether you agree or whether it’s even accurate. You’ve got to have thick skin.”


    That passion leaves the design studio with him.

    A few years ago, his then-teenage daughter brought home a beat-up 1978 Chevy pickup to restore. Peters winced. But soon he got hooked on the painstaking project. Over his lunch hour, he found himself trolling local junkyards near GM's suburban Detroit design center, sifting for the guts of the truck's burned-out dome lamp and other obscure parts.

    "I had a real love-hate relationship with that truck," Peters said. "But I'd do it all over again."






    Peters' portfolio

    Tom Peters has worked on a number of memorable production and concept vehicles during his 30 years at GM.
    • Corvette Indy concept, 1986
    • Pontiac Banshee concept, 1988
    • Cadillac Sixteen concept, 2003
    • Buick Velite concept, 2004
    • Corvette (C6), 2004
    • Camaro, 2009


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    A maroon, followed by a silver. I was not at the end of the driveway, so could not see lic plate(s) but would bet they were both bearing MI manufacturer lic plates.

    They were relatively quiet, noticeable due to their jewel eyed headlights and Camaro-like tails. They both looked real nice. Maroon grabbed me eyes fast.
     
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    saw it 2 weeks ago at laguna seca. looks so so. definitely not pretty or stylistically unique.
     
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    I still remember seeing that in a magazine when I was 8 and thinking it was so amazing.
     
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    #45 jm2, May 28, 2013
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    from today's Corvette Forum :

    Earlier today, we reported that the C7 Stingray would be producing 455 hp and 460 lb.ft of torque with the standard exhaust system. However, it now appears that with the optional performance exhaust system, the LT1-powered C7 Vette will make 460 hp and 465lb.ft of torque! Check out the SAE graph at our source's link.
    Chevy estimates that the Corvette will reach 60 mph from a dead stop in under four seconds. Additionally, the engine should exceed 26 mpg on the highway (although probably not if you’re constantly doing 0-60 runs). According to Jordan Lee, small block chief engineer, “the 2014 Corvette Singray’s LT1 engine is a triumph of advanced technology, delivering more power and torque than ever before with greater efficiency.” He went on to add that, “The LT1’s performance complements the Corvette’s low mass with a tremendous feeling of power that builds as the rpm climbs. Drivers will experience more power and acceleration than ever before with the standard engine—in fact, its power and torque surpass many uplevel engines offered by competitors [editor’s note, read: Porsche].”

    and on Autoblog:
    http://www.autoblog.com/2013/05/28/2014-chevy-corvette-stingray-6-2l-lt1-rated-at-460-hp-465-lb-ft/
     
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    #46 TheMayor, May 28, 2013
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    LOL as all the Corvette owners are complaining about "only 455". Some people are never satisfied!

    I think it's terrific. Look at the Jag F type in comparison. The Vette blows it away.
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  22. jm2

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    particularly at the Vette's price point!
     
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    Yeah, and the Jag is supercharged, whereas the C7 is NA. I'll take the Corvette every day.
     
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    Yep that is me :)

    I am hoping the car is lighter weight so it feels and is fast. MY Ariel Atom only has 300hp and it has awesome 0-60 times.

    I miss my ZR1 with 638 HP. Just a wonderful car. I suspect the base Vette will be followed by other more powerful Vettes. This base version may be good enough for me. We will see

    :) I should get one in Sept or so.

    Lee
     
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    I dont think many people cross shop the FType and Vette.

    The FType is the cheaper alternative to an AM or Maser and fulfills that role brilliantly.
     

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