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  1. joe sackey

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    #11626 joe sackey, May 22, 2013
    Good work, please share the complete article when you are ready.
     
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    #11627 miurasv, May 24, 2013
    Harry Metcalfe tells the Lamborghini story. Miura and Piet Pulford Iota content. Which UK SV is at about 1.30? Is it a conversion?

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    #11628 joe sackey, May 24, 2013
    I do believe so, but I'm not at a place where I can verify.
     
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    #11629 miurasv, May 24, 2013
    The RAC website say APP 122J was registered in 1970 so must be an SV conversion as suspected.
     
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    #11633 Sledge4.2, May 24, 2013
    why did you add a V to what i typed?

    :)
     
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    #11634 joe sackey, May 24, 2013
    I didn't, quick edit correction by you, but you forgot to also edit the spelling of Miura.

    The car is spelled M - I - U - R - A and not Muira as you spelled.

    Minor details perhaps, and thanks for sharing, this Miura often confuses people who are no sure what it is: SV, Jota? Its a P400S that is much-enjoyed, documented several times earlier in this thread in both pics & video.

    Best,
     
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    #11635 joe sackey, May 24, 2013
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    Another pic of the same interesting Miura.

    I'm not 100% sure, but my notes tell me that this Miura was converted to some cosmetic Jota spec by Bob Wallace in Phoenix AZ.

    If its the one I am thinking of then this is production # 593, completion date at Sant Agata December the 12th 1970.

    If correct, then its chassis #4791 fitted with engine #30593.
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    #11636 Sledge4.2, May 24, 2013
    Standing corrected.

    The owner husband and wife, were very nice and talked with me for quite a while about the car. You are correct, there is a Bob Wallace story, you can still see the headlight cut out areas in the paint. The owner does all the work himself, and the engine is immaculate. As someone who has pulled and worked on a vintage Lambo engine, his work put mine to complete and total shame.
     
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    #11639 joe sackey, May 25, 2013
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    Steve,

    Now I am finally in a place I can access some files, here is what I think:

    This car is very likely chassis number 4527, a P400S finished at Sant Agata on the 5th of June 1970, fitted with engine number 30513.

    Finished in Yellow/Mustard leather, it is production number 504. Originally a RHD car, it was supplied to the UK.

    At some point it was registered GB registered 947 HCR.

    In early 1972, this car went back to the factory whilst SV production was still ongoing, and it became an SV on the assembly line, this time assigned production number 698. Chassis number 4527 & engine number were retained. Completed on the 10th of May 1972, it returned to the UK, and at some point in later years was repainted Red/Black and registered APP 122 J, possibly its original 1970 registration.

    In the last few years it has been the subject of a total restoration. The aforementioned rings true because I have an e-mail from the current owner describing the same, on file.

    Hope this helps.
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    #11640 miurasv, May 25, 2013
    That's very interesting indeed, Joe. Do you think this car may be wholly SV and it was a totally new car built in early 1972 but just given the earlier production number? If so, this would mean 10 original RHD SVs and the 2 that were allegedly converted at the factory. Perhaps Harry knows something about it?
     
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    #11641 raymondQV, May 25, 2013
    Dealer: G.G.NATIONS, Geneva
    Offered ar RM Monterey auction, 27/29.8.99. SCM reported: "Odo: 27,967. Red, black sills/ black, grey cloth. Modified body with fixed headlights in tunnels, air vents in front and rear fenders. Fair repaint over chips, dirty chassis, decent, interior. cond: 3. Sold at $90,750."
    New exterior: red , New interior: black/ grey

    This Miura S, presently in the USA, was updated to SV Jota specs by none other than Bob Wallace himself. Mark Carney, Dallas, Texas, USA.

    Source: Miura-Register
     
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    #11642 Olivier NAMECHE, May 25, 2013
    #4262, Miura S offered in Italy for few weeks, has been sold to American citizen just by phone without looking at it.

    Does someone know where it will flight to in USA ?

    A friend of mine was not quick enough... and regrets his lack of quick decision !
     
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    #11644 espada1952, May 25, 2013
    This car was red for many years, I remember seeing it forsale at Straight 6 in Edgware in the late 80's, it was sold and never seen again until it was offered for sale a few years ago.
    It started life as a UK RHD S and went back to the factory in the early 70,s to be upgraded to an SV,not an original SV but a factory upgraded car,it has recently been restored by a respected Ferrari restorer in the UK.

    Stephen Keen
     
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    #11645 ilconservatore, May 25, 2013
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    Thanks for the pics, I was about to post similar shots a friend just sent but yours are more detailed.

    Anyone care to comment on the "Factory Authorized Restoration"?

    I would expect the factory could at least remember what kind of cooling fans they used back then ;)
     
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    #11646 miurasv, May 25, 2013
    There must be a huge amount of work upgrading a P400S to P400SV. Wouldn't it have been cheaper in the early seventies just to px the S for a SV? I wonder how far they went at the factory to bring it to SV spec? For it to be 100% SV it would need a new chassis as they were made from thicker gauge steel on the SV. Split Sump I wonder? The car does look stunning.
     
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    #11647 Olivier NAMECHE, May 25, 2013
    isn' it done by contractor... Top Motors...
     
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    #11648 Olivier NAMECHE, May 25, 2013
    very strange, it looks like the same car now even more expensive offered in Germany : Lamborghini Miura "S" Unikat!!! Orig. 3950km! als Sportwagen/Coupé in Freiburg
     
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    #11649 joe sackey, May 25, 2013
    Yes.

    NEW production number, but old chassis & engine number = same car coming back home = no new car taxes.

    Nowadays, the consequences of such goings-on would be dire.
     
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    #11650 joe sackey, May 25, 2013
    Now there is an original-looking car.

    Andrew were are you?

    LOTS of original Miura images in this thread, I just went through a large chunk of it, and there are almost too many to list.
     
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