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  1. Bob Parks

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    Just for the fun of it I checked the newspaper to see if June 6th, 1944 popped up. There was a brief recognition of one who was in the invasion and nothing else. Maybe next year there will be a bit more recognition since it will be 70 years after the event.
     
  2. tazandjan

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    Bob- Most people have no clue why we celebrate November 11 either, except it is Veteran's Day.
     
  3. Tcar

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    The eleventh hour of the eleventh day of the eleventh month... Also called Armistice Day...
     
  4. Bob Parks

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    Taz, I grew up with Armistice Day and then Veterans Day and year by year its importance grows less and less. I guess that I understand it because it fades with time and the new generations have no connection to it regardless of the great impact that it had on their lives.
     
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    July 1st of this year will be the 150th anniversary of the start of Gettysburg. How many reflected on it last year, or the year before. Are you going to reflect on it or attend any memorials for it this year?

    There have been many battles which had a great impact on our lives. The most important thing is they are still taught in school, rather than memorialized every year. Any further comment and the discussion will belong in P&R.
     
  6. Texas Forever

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    D-Day was Eisenhower's finest moment. He did an amazing job of herding egotistical fools. But it easily could have become his worst hour. At the end of the day, however, the American strategy of overwhelming power combined with unbelievable bravery won the day.

    But it is sad that, as I understand it, D-Day is remembered more in France than here.

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  7. Bob Parks

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    I'm not getting into P&R. I'm simply remarking on how things have changed over the years. I think about Gettysburg every year because my grandfather fought there on Culp's Hill with the 29th Ohio Volunteer Infantry.
     
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    My point is that every generation thinks the same thing, probably many times throughout their adult years. I know I do.
     
  9. Bob Parks

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    I think that what I was getting at is that there isn't much emphasis on American history being taught in the schools anymore.
     
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    #10 986986, Jun 8, 2013
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    Let's remember there where 5 beaches:

    3 of them: Sword, Juno and Gold led by the British 2nd Army with Brits, Canadian, Free French, Polish, Czech, Belgian and Norwegians totalling 83,000 men

    2 of them: Omah and Utah led by US 2nd Arm totalling 73,000 men

    And of course lets not forget Major John Howard and his Paratroops who where the first Allies to land in occupied France to take Pegasus Bridge.

    The point of mentioning this? Lets remember all the men and women that took part from all the nations that took up arms against the Axis none of this would have been possible without the learning, experience and manufacturing effort all parties bought to this little party!
     
  11. Texas Forever

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    You are, of course, right. My apologies.

    Dale
     
  12. Crawler

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    Beautifully stated. I might add "individual self-sacrifice and courage" to the list.
     
  13. Bob Parks

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    I went to college with an ex-BAR man, 9th Div. who went ashore at St. Lo and walked from there to Germany where he received his FORTH and final Purple heart when his leg was almost torn off by shrapnel from an 88. Before that, his forehead was creased , his cheek sustained a bullet wound, his shoulder was shot through, he was hit in the back, and he took a large piece of shrapnel through his thigh that finally sent him home. He had not had a furlough since he went ashore in France and he said that the only time he rode anywhere was to go back to get fixed up. Those days at school were full of war "stories" but when he finally opened up a little bit and brought his regimental history back from a visit home, it backed up his short comments about his " travels", as he called it.
     
  14. Bob Parks

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    I should have said, " FOURTH and final wound" since he wasn't awarded the purple heart for all of his injuries. To give you an idea of a grunt's life. When he was on patrol in the Hurtgen Forest his small group was at single file when the kid in front of him grunted and went down. Bill dove for the dirt and as he was going down to a prone position he sprayed the area above and in front of him with his BAR. He then had " snow" falling around him and couldn't figure out how that could possibly happen. Then he realized that he had taken a round through the right trapezius (muscle that goes from the neck to the top of the shoulder) and then figured out the " snow". The German's bullet had gone through the combat pack and exploded a pack of hard biscuits. It also severed the shoulder strap. He was attended to on the spot by a medic who sprinkled the wound with sulfa power and then threaded a piece gauze through the hole and tied it in place with a knot on top of his shoulder . The gauze probably had been sprinkled with a sulfa solution. Bill went back on the line after having orders to report back to the medic in two days to have the gauze removed. Bill was assigned someone to carry his pack and ammo and he went back into action. He found out later that he had nailed the sniper.
     
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    It is truly amazing what a motivated civilian army can do.

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