UFC and MMA Thread

Brock was clearly scared. Having been in many a fight, that's the easiest way to get your clock cleaned. Some people can't help it, and Brock never liked getting hit.

Flip that with Frankie Edgar - the man gets hammered and keeps coming back - no fear. He's not the most polished fighter, but the dude fears nothing.

I wouldn't count out Bigfoot. He's awkward, but he has a knack for getting up for the big fight. No one would argue that Fedor and Overeem don't have heavy hands, Bigfoot pummeled both of them.

The difference I see is that Cain is a respectful guy. He won't look past Bigfoot, and I gather he won't insult him or do anything pre-fight to give the guy a cause. Cain by KO, first round.

He's been juicing from the get go. I'm also a former competitive bodybuilder, and I know a juiced person from years of seeing it around me. The exemption - eg it's "legal" in the UFC - is correct...if you have the prescription, they allow it. I call "BS", but I'll also say that at higher weights, it's not going to help you that much, especially since many bigger guys cut down. As juiced as Vitor was, Rockhold was hardly small in comparison, and a smaller guy carrying that kind of weight has a tendency to sap your energy.

No matter - Vitor won and you have to give him a ton of credit. Rockhold had a terrible strategy, Vitor is known to come out swinging, and he did. Lights out, it's over. There was no fluke. I'm not a Vitor fan at all (although I totally think he's a good dude and I respect that he's still fighting after a ton of stuff that's happened, including the kidnapping of his sister), but he kicked ass.

 

I like vitor even more for his story and the person he's seemed to become. his life story is interesting, i'll always root for fighters that persevere in spite of great adversity. the steroid thing is fairly obvious, people just don't naturally look like that. as for the ko, it was freaking awesome. rockhold came into the fight way too cocky and totally underestimated vitor. that guy is ALWAYS dangerous. it's funny bc I taped the fight and you see him egging vitor on right before the spinning back kick. even during the post fight interview he chalked it up more to luck which is a horrible character trait.

Rockhold is a HUGE mw, dude is like 6'4", I really am amazed he's able to cut down to 185. I wonder what his walk around weight is, because he's not one of those super tall rail thin guys either, he's got a big build. I really like edgar, it was pretty hard watching him get picked apart by aldo like that. the weight cutting thing is a trade off, you may be bigger in the ring but many guys end up being completely zapped from the strenuous weight cuts which leads to a big disadvantage, esp at the lighter weights where speed and endurance are every bit if not more important than overall strength.

I like Anderson and I really wish that at some point before he hangs it up, we get to see him and jbj fight. while both are in their primes. that would be the makings of a fight that I would def pay whatever it took to take my wife to go see live. it reminds me of the wand/liddell superfight they were trying to make years ago that never really came into fruition (they ended up fighting later in the ufc but both were clearly past their primes)..

 

I said the same thing about Overoid. I was wrong lol. Actually, IIRC Overoid was controlling the first 2 rounds against Bigfoot so it wasn't a total mauling like when Cain fought Bigfoot.

Ya dude, you know Hendo, Sonnen, Griffin are all on the sauce right?

Werd and werd. Overoid looked past Silva and paid the ultimate price. But in HW, anyone can win with one punch. Just hope it's not a snoozefest like Mir-Cormier.

I expected Rockhold to have a better strategy. He certainly had more than enough time to prepare. Maybe he was looking to Anderson-Weidman winner and got caught. Should have taken the fight to the ground IMHO.

Bones will be too much for Anderson. He poses the unorthodox style and reach that makes Anderson so effective, thereby neutralizing Anderson's strengths while offering youth and strength from a heavier weight division.

I'd like to see Bones and Cormier but Bones has pretty much destroyed all comers. Ironically, Vitor came the closest to pulling off the upset.

 

cormier is that guy that is a bad matchup for pretty much everyone, no one wants to fight him for the simple fact that he's going to be a tough fight with virtually no fotn bonus potential. he's a grinder, people don't generally like watching grinders.

Belfort took the fight on short notice. although the outcome may not have been different, it's interesting to think about. Anderson just finds a way to win. although naturally it's very difficult to bet against jbj considering the roll he's been on, Anderson's experience and fight knowledge I think is the big x factor when you have two fighters of this caliber fighting. like I said, I would clear my schedule book, book a hotel room and buy plane tickets in an instant if this fight were to materialize when all situations were the same.

 

Maldonado impresses me every time he fights - tremendous heart, and I believe underrated in skill.

As for the WW division, you are asking someone who was born in Montreal, and is a huge GSP fan! I don't see GSP losing anytime soon. He is just too well-rounded, and he and his team put together the best of game plans. They may not be the most exciting game plans, but no one can argue how effective they are. I agree that there are some pretty substantial contenders working their way up, like Ellenberger, and of course, Hendricks, but GSP has been very effective in not only neutralizing, but dominating guys like Condit, Diaz, Shields, etc., and these are guys that I thought would really put up a strong fight.

It's too bad that we'll probably never see MacDonald/GSP, because I think Rory may be the cream of the crop contender-wise.......

Also, Bendo has been talking about moving up to WW to fight for a title - that is rather intriguing, as he is a pretty big LW.

On another note, huge signing reported in the press today; Josh Barnett signed a multi-fight deal in the UFC............

 

I like Barnett, a lot of people don't but he's always a contender and an entertaining dude. GSP's skills are undebateable, he's been the ww king for years, and I actually met him at an event before he became a huge star (insane night btw, got to hang out for a night with some big stars in the ufc). really humble, down to earth, genuinely good guy. just surrounded by insanely hot women. that chin scares me though, I think since serra touched it, he's been ultra conservative which is understandable. love him or hate him, greg Jackson knows how to win.

Rory. I agree with you there. a huge and talented ww, but like you said, we may never see them fight. who knows though, condit fought gsp. bendo should NOT move up to ww, I know he's a good sized lw but I think he would get steamrolled at ww. dude, I am SO psyched about aldo pettis.

 

Hell ya, that one will be incredible!

 

+1. Bendo would get mauled at WW. Geeked for Aldo-Pettis and still hopeful for Showtime Kick redux one of these days. Pulling for Maynard this weekend, should be a brawl if he emerges victorious and faces Bendo. Two big LWs.

 

should be interesting to see maynard back in the mix. really exciting stuff going on. bendo's weight is all in his legs, in stature he's not really bigger, he's just extremely dense and well muscled. he's like gsp, probably won't win in spectacular fashion; but always manages to get the job done. at the lighter weights it's easier to fight very technically and pull off a well planned strategy, as the odds of one hit kos are less likely at the lighter weights simply bc they don't possess the power to really take someone's head off with one punch.

hunt is the freaking man. I love his story, his attitude and his hands are among the heaviest I've ever seen in mma period. dude got discovered in a streetfight knocking guys out left and right. that's hilarious.

 

Huge fan of hunt. Glad to see him get a marquee bout and resolve his visa issues. Good fights this weekend.

 

older but HILARIOUS. I get a kick out of it every time I see it. forrest griffin is the man. beware, a little bit of profanity.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1R50LpFh_M&feature=share]Forrest Griffin talks about Anderson Silva fight - YouTube[/ame]

 

Pick 'em for this weekend. My choices are in bold;

UFC 160: Velasquez vs. Bigfoot 2
Date: May 25, 2013
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
Venue: MGM Grand Garden Arena

Broadcast: Pay-per-view, FX, Facebook

MAIN CARD (Pay-per-view, 10 p.m. ET)

Cain Velasquez vs. Antonio Silva - for heavyweight title Cain is just too fast and effective.
Junior dos Santos vs. Mark Hunt This is a choice made from the heart because I love Hunt. It will be a war, and JDS has top notch boxing skills, so it really can go either way.
James Te Huna vs. Glover Teixeira This guy is on his way to a title shot, and may very well win it.
T.J. Grant vs. Gray Maynard Gray is just so powerful.
Donald Cerrone vs. KJ Noons Love Cowboy - so much better on the ground than Noons, and certainly capable of standing up.

PRELIMINARY CARD (FX, 8 p.m. ET)

Mike Pyle vs. Rick Story Story is a beast. Pyle will have his hands full.
Dennis Bermudez vs. Max Holloway
Colton Smith vs. Robert Whittaker
Khabib Nurmagomedov vs. Abel Trujillo

PRELIMINARY CARD (Facebook, 6:35 p.m. ET)

Nah-Shon Burrell vs. Stephen Thompson
Brian Bowles vs. George Roop Seriously - this is on the preliminary card?!?!?
Estevan Payan vs. Jeremy Stephens

 

"Bigfoot' was a JOKE!!!!!!!

 

decent card, exciting ko's but could've been so much more I think.
noons looked flat, just like he didn't want to be in there. cerrone is always going to give you a tough fight, he shows up ready, in shape so he's always going to bring it. maynard, I think is going to be a really tough gatekeeper for a while, I like the guy but he's been given so many opportunities and just hasn't been able to capitalize. shame bc I like the guy and think he's an exciting fighter. texeira is a scary dude, and he's going to continue to wreak havoc on the lhw division for years to come. i'd like to see him eventually fight for the strap. poor hunt, that was just hard to watch. sadly, I believe it's time for him to hang it up. for him to just see him getting battered like that for that long to finally be put out of his misery made me a bit sad. cain's the man imo. thing is, he shows such a great work ethic and surprisingly high level of maturity for a man of his age. those traits combined with his natural athleticism make for true champion qualities. and i'll continue to root for him all the way.

 

I think we'll see Texeira up for a title shot sooner than later, maybe after a couple of more wins.

Cain is the man, but JDS could very well be so. It will make for a very interesting rubber match.

 

big time meh card tonight. but it's free so i'll tape it while out with friends and watch tomorrow. werdum takes the main by UD, maybe even by sub, I have nothing but love for big nog but I feel his time is done. I really think if he hasn't already, try to prevent incurring any more damage on his body that may be permanent, stick to coaching (guys LOVE the man), and call it a magnificent career.

 

I love when i'm right.!

 

Awesome night! A record for submission finishes.

 

I enjoyed every fight!!!! That was fun!!!

 

crap, had some stuff to do and didn't dvr. pissed.

 

I am pretty sure they will be replaying it throughout the week...............

 

yeah, we were on our way out, I was waiting in the car, waiting on the wife to finish her makeup (per the usual) and yelled for her to tape it for me really quick. had a moment of self doubt which I foolishly ignored and lo and behold, it didn't dvr. need to follow my own advice of NEVER counting on the wife to do anything with the tv/cable.

 

Tell me you saw Birkman vs Fitch!!! WOW!!!! shocked!

 

Yeah, that was a shocker.

 

Burkman looked solid, and I'd like to see him get a call from Dana. Sad to watch Fitch on a downward spiral. That guy has gotten no breaks from anyone.

What a waste of money of the UFC PPV last night. Terrible. One of the worst I have seen. Evans/Hendo was good, but not too many more beyond that. Big Country looked like crap - how he thinks he is able to fight so quickly after his last fight is beyond me. Way too many boring decisions.

Not to dog womens' MMA, but unless it is a title shot, I don't want to see them on the main card in the UFC. There's way too many other fights that would be a lot more interesting. The addition of women in the UFC was just a way for the UFC to capitalize on Rousey's popularity, IMO.

What did you guys think of last night's card?