Replicas, why bother ??

...simply because you love the 250 GTO or 250 California and you CAN'T AFFORD a real one or CAN'T AFFORD TO DRIVE or RACE a real one. Same reason people have replica watches, bags, etc. don't be naive...it is always about THE MONEY, or Moreso, the lack of it.

 

Then you shouldn't have one, period. There are plenty of other cars, watches and bags available that suit your budget. Learn to live within your means and respect intellectual property, trademarks and copyright. Thinking otherwise is naive.

 

Nonsense.

 

Sums it all up perfectly.

 

The notion that you somehow "have" a 250 GTO because you built something that sort of resembles one is the core of the problem.

People need to get a job, invest or do whatever rather than seeking shortcuts in life. And, as Paul posted above, enjoy the fruits of your labor.

 

Yes, I agree with this as my personal opinion. I myself, do not condone replicas. I was just posting why I think others will buy these things.

 

What a load of BS and a "poser" remark.

 

I actually think it's funny when I get asked if it's a replica. Why would you be insulted by that? A couple guys in a pickup pulled up beside me the other day and the passenger, with a grin, said "that's a nice replica". I looked at him and said "thank you, so are you".

 

Now that good!

 

Yeah because someone building a 750k recreation is poor and does not have money, they are obviously looking for a free ride.

Or maybe they just like a certain car design that is out of production, so they comission an exact new build. Just like Bugatti owners have doen for gnerations just like hostoric aircraft or boat people do. get over your $$$ snobbery, these are fun mecanical objects to play with. All the rest is BS marketing Hooey by dealers and auction companies. Enzo was not some near mythical chgaracter as prtrayed now, he was a hard nosed businessman who was into cars. He certainly id not revere the old ones. In fact he scrapped them. He would probably laught at all this old car reverance, which seems to be based mostly on myth and what they cost.

Yo know when I want a Thompson I either can afford a old one for 15K(or am crazy enough to pay those huge amonts) or I buy a new build, same gun same funtionality different values and collectability thats pretty much the only difference. Same with a New build GTO. Yes there is an arguemenbt about licensing, but any trademark licensing to the GTo or SWB design is long gone, just dont put a horsey on it and youa re good to go.

if you ened to put a horsey on, then the anti recreation brigade has a point, but if its about the drive go ahead. And all you concors freks, go drivve your cars thats what they are meant for. Concors events are like keeping a panther in a small cage.

 

What a bunch of snob BS, you should run out and buy a real car for those poor people then, yup that's the right thing to do!

 

Since there is so much hate jelously, and well warranted negative stigma to owning a
"real" ferrari its actualy much better if people think its a replica. Who cares what peoiple think, surely its for your pleasure?

Yeah and a clone is a clone, and you can rtpretty much exactly clone a GTO, maybe its worth less than an origional, but it goes just the same, anbd to me that is what counts.

 

True & sad, have heard of a few Ferrari being vandalized for no reason, which equally as stupid as some snob remarks made in this thread IMO

 

Yeah I always thought that we were all just enthusiasts and just into cars. But some see themselvs or others as a cut above or something.

Get out and drive the wheels off I say, thats what these thinmgs are for. Actualy thats what these things were created for, many if not most see them as some type of wealth affirmation statement.

 

Except that old Thompsons fired with open bolts, and new Thompsons fire with close bolt, I agree.

I've said it before in this thread, but it always gets lost.

A good replica is identical to the real thing. It's the same engine, gearbox, suspension, steering, brakes. Everything.

Who wouldn't want one for a fraction of the price?

Matt

 

Completely agreed, I appreciate Ferraris for being Ferrari, and ALL other cars for what they are - well 99% anyway - there are ugly or very badly done replicas, which beg the question "why", but even still it depends on the person & story, which is as much a part of any vehicle IMO

 

So I should have lied and said: yep. it's a kit car. built it in my garage last week. LOL

 

The problem with the image of owning and driving a Ferrari is, for many, a real dilemma, and this question comes up in some form or another all the time.

I personally cannot stand anyone who thinks they are better than someone else just because of the amount of money they have or what property they own; I have no interest in being associated with elitist snobs. Luckily, that is not the norm here, though there are some that would fit the bill.

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/ferrari-discussion-not-model-specific/411272-take-ferrari-not-take-ferrari-work.html

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/ferrari-discussion-not-model-specific/381943-what-do-you-tell-your-friends.html

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/ferrari-discussion-not-model-specific/357989-anyone-embarrassed-anyone.html

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/ferrari-discussion-not-model-specific/341060-all-ferrari-owners-question.html

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/ferrari-discussion-not-model-specific/241220-what-do-people-really-think-about-f-car-owner.html


Bullfighter, at least I see you have been very consistent in your views!
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/ferrari-discussion-not-model-specific/289839-replicas-fakes-road-moral-ruin.html

 

I still have no idea why people want to replicate a Ferrari when when there are arguably better looking, better performing cars out there that can be had for less. I still believe it is the Ferrari image that is so coveted be these people who build replicas. Build a great perfoming car of your own design and show the word some real talent. Why not be origional instead of fake? All comes back to the need for the horse and the name and all that comes with it.

 

I think it's two things; images from their childhood - which of us didn't have or see a Countach poster as a kid - and the other is probably not really informed about the automotive world & choices, I know other friends who - not being full fledged gearheads - aren't aware of the 'better' choices for same money

That being said, I think the third would be they don't realize getting into a project the cost, figuring it will be "cheap", but either they end up with a cheap junker, or they end up spending much more than realized to get the final result

 

Are there better choices? Lets see are there any great equivalent moderns you can buy without paddle crap, not really. Ok then what moderns are there that you can get which are charismatic devoid of electronic gizmos and crash safety crap, ah none. What moderns come from the factory with open exhausts, I guess you could buy a harley.

Now what moderns are there thata re fun and involving to drive at slower speeds, none, well maybe a miata.

So your old ferrari looks great, sounds great, the motor is a treat, the car is light on its feet fun and engaing to drive and is entertaining at speeds that are not even insane in a ford focus. In other words there are no modern equivalents.

Now you could get an etype, but the motor and drivign experience is very different. And the list goes on.

I for one would probably go for a maserati 3500 over many an overpriced ferrari 250.

But then I have a penchant for the 288 GTO. A good one is over $1 million. So yeah for 3-400K if I could get a new build tool room copy maybe with EFI instead of FI I would go for it without even thinking. For where and how I drive that is a car that woudl suit my needs to a T. You know older cars have an engagement and charisma that moderns lack. And moderns arte moving furehr away from this ideal.

 

Sounds like an old 308 would fit the bill nicely. Best of all it would be a real Ferrari.

 

Yeah well to me its about the drive not the name on the hood,I already have a boxer which has lot more go than a "real" 308, so a 288 is going to be somwething a whole lot more than a 308 or boxer to drive, which to me is the point. As to whether its a real ferrari, I dont care as long as its a correct 288 because its all about the drive and driving experience, the horsey on the hood is of little importance..

I personaly would not copy a 250 series car because there are other affordable classic options in that range that appeal to me like the masser 3500, but for how I drive I prefer a different league of performance so would go for a 288 copy. I love driving my boxer, but its a little big/heavy and slow. To me a 288 is lighter faster and more nimble, so the boxer experience amped up, that is why i woudlk go for a 288, plus always loved the looks of a 308 and a 288 is a 308 on steroids.

As getting a 288 toolroom copy does not seem possible because no one makes them. As a result I have bought a 512M motor to go in my boxer which already runs modern rubber, easily swappable back to the boxer motor and stock wheels in a day.. Then for the track I have a SPF GT40 on order. Now I have my lotus elise for tight tracks and will have the Gt40 for bigger ones. I suppose for less $$$ I might just get a 997 GT3 which might do what the Lotus and Gt40 does in one package, but I cant really maintain a 997Gt3 myself and cant get a new one. Plus its like slippers great to have dfifferent ones for different moods and situations. Same with motorcycles.

You know I treid the Mclaren and 458, they left me unmoved. To me, and my preference may not be for others a fast/exotic car either needs to be great on the track and or charismatic and an event to drive on the street. I think cars got ever better from the early 60's, US spec suffered because of regulation, development suffered because of fuel crisis, but what really killed iot all off was the electronic era when the driver became ever more removed from the equation.

The greats to me were cobras, GT40's, 275 4 cam, Daytonas, boxers, various 308's, 288's, 355, F50, some porches. The lambos looked great but really lacked that all of a piece feel to drive and are fragile to use hard. The aventador though captures the essence of an older car in a great relaible package, except maybe for the shift, but I could live with that. Still would not take an aventador over a 288 recreation, even if the 288 had no horsey on the hood.

Now I could buy a countach, and it will probably appreciate great, but I dont want to be nurtsing back to rude health another older Italian car, and a CT is not great on the track. If you really wnat to DRIVE these days, you can chance it here and there early in the morning when there is no traffic out, do some road rallies or go to the track. If you go to the track then you need a car robust engough for that enviroment, if your tastes run more classic as mine do and you like midis the Gt40 is the way to go. Plus you can tiunker with older cars or I should say older car designes in a way you cant woth moderns, and that too has appeal.

Perhaps this explains why someone who knows a little bit about cars, loves to drive hard and could care less about status, would choose a recreation.

As to moderns, maybe, just maybe the c7 will be great. We will see if Gm got it down this time and we do not need to use bang for the buck excuses. In which case after afew years of devlopment I can see adding a z06 version as the modern slipper.

 

Yup. Replicas are all about the brand.

An original car, or other authentic cars in the same price range may be great to drive, but that's not the primary purpose of a replica.

 

I am guessing you are not much of a driver in the real sense, maybe one aspiring to be able to drive, so the vehicle/badge is your definition..