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How to drive a civillian vehicle

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by boxerman, Jun 26, 2013.

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  1. boxerman

    boxerman F1 World Champ Silver Subscribed

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    After a wekend of alternating betwen the boxer and my lotus I was like an old grandpa when driving the wifes suv. It was like driving marshmellow, the front end wouldnt reapond, then it responded to much, the lean was frightening, the brakes sucked and the motor was soft and rough. I think I was having trouble adjusting back to a lack of immediacy at the controls.

    5 Days later the SUV seems to dive just fine and is quite good. Seems like I am having touble recalibrating back to a regular vehicle after intergrating into a repsonsive car. Even my M3 just seems like a powerful mashmellow after the other two cars, the brakes lack modulkation and everything is delayed. Maybe I am getting old, but it takes longer to recalibrate back, or I am just getting too lazy to put out the effort to drive an unresponsive soft machine. Its weird after the performance machine I just go slow in the suv and it still seems like work. Other find the Lotus or ferrari hard and jittery, to me this is becoming the norm, and the other are just way too soft.

    Anybody else find this?
     
  2. Mozella

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    It's not quite clear to me what you're asking. But if you're asking if other people notice the difference between their Ferrari and another car designed for a completely different purpose, the answer is; "Yes, of course".

    If you're asking if using the appropriate driving style and immediately adjusting the way I drive when I change from one car to the other is a problem, the answer in my case would be no. If it were yes, I would consider turning in my driving license.

    My Fiat Grande Punto doesn't handle as well as my 360, but it's not all that bad either, considering what it is. On the other hand, the Fiat isn't the absolute best hauler for my two fat yellow labs, but it is WAY better than the Ferrari which fails miserably in that category. In any case, I certainly don't have any trouble knowing which is which and I don't have any trouble driving either my Fiat or my Ferrari in an appropriate way when I take into account how they perform.

    My Ducati Monster provides a similar thrill level to that of my Ferrari, but riding it is completely different from driving my Ferrari. For one thing, it tips over when you stop if you don't put out a leg. For another, the gear change, brake, and clutch devices are all in completely different places. If I couldn't easily and quickly recognize how different my Ducati and Ferrari are when it comes to how they operate and perform, then I would say it's time for me to hang it up.

    If you don't have a comfortable feeling about the dynamics of a particular motor vehicle by the time you get to the end of your driveway, you're asking for trouble.
     
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    Ingenere F1 Veteran Owner Silver Subscribed

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    Of course they feel different. They are designed for a different purpose.

    A few years back I was running a TR, 348, Mondial t, and an F40. The F40 had such a performance gap that when I would drive one of the other Ferraris after the F40...... they felt broken!
     
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    if i am car hopping over a weekend, sometimes when i get into one of the older ones, my first sensation is that the steering is so heavy that i must have 2 flat tires!

    if i have not driven a decent car in a few weeks, when i do get back into a ferrari, it feels like i just stepped into another world - faster, brighter, electric! modern fully automated normal cars, like a typical rental car, are just appliances. the spec is to start/stop, provide transport in some comfort from a to b, and that is it. a maytag on wheels.
     
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    I agree 100%. I was actually thinking this on the ride to work..

    The Zombie Apocalypse has come. It is here. You can see the zombies in other cars when you drive down the road (here in the US). They're barely able to keep it between the lines, swerving, sipping on lattes.. sexting.. Most civillian cars are that way for a reason, because people dont' demand more and aren't capable of more.

    I think part of the reason manufacturers give their cars such slop.. is that when you're an inattentive driver, you need alot of leeway in interpreting what the car is telling you. You're not going to tell that the appliance is about to slide off the road.. so they give it alot of lean that makes you feel uncomfortable, so that you correct what you're doing BEFORE it goes off the road or causes an accident. I like how even despite this.. people STILL end up in an accident. When we drive it, because we're attentive to our cars and their handling above normal drivers, these signals and feel are excessive.

    When I drive my wifes 06' Passat I want to pull my hair out. You step on the accellerator and count 1..2..3.. then the car starts to move. In corners it's squishy. We just bought an A4 6sp manual so hopefully it won't be so frustrating. When I got rid of the Boxster, I seriously had to debate which car would have a similar experience. And the Mini, for a cheap civillian car, has a tight suspension. The mindless zombies complain about it coming from a cush Honda.. but I find it has the firm driving feel I can live with. Anything after driving the 360 is a crap experience...
     
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    I am the opposite. I drive my 328, then the 2012 Acura, and think the Acura A/C is much better, it is faster, the stereo sounds better, it handles better, better build quality, better seats, etc. Sort of like the Top Gear episode with the DB5 and E-Type compared to a modern hatchbox Honda. Honda was better in every way.

    But I like the 328 more.
     
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    It's a pretty stark contrast when I park the 360 and immediately get into my daily driver, a 2010 Mercedes-Benz S550. But, you gotta drive what you gotta drive, and I don't have any car seats in the 360.

    I think we automatically have to lower our sensitivity when we get into a "normal" vehicle. Along with that lowered sensitivity should also be lowered expectations, because not many other cars drive like our Ferraris do.

    Still, having multiple cars at your disposal (we have 5 for 2 drivers) is a GOOD problem to have. I just remind myself of that every time I have to switch out of the Ferrari for any of the other cars at home.
     
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    Yeah I guess I went from my elise to my wifes Gl mercedes and we were still on the twisties, it all seemed to be work and not worth it, never felt that way before, used to push any car within reason.

    Each correction or movement of the wheel sort of did nothing. Its like I needed to use one hand balanced on my leg to drive propelry, too much boost too much slop. I just couldnt find the groove, maybe at 40k the shocks are shot too. A week later the big merc feels like it has pretty decent dynamics. I think the contrast was just too huge. It was like getting on skies after a 1 year hiatus, you can ski but it really takes a few hours to dial back in.

    I think I am struggling with these over filtered machines, you are looking for subleties in feedback to drive them and I sort of feel why bother. Maybe that is what its about. In the pst on the big merc I woudl still try, you know within sanity go for gaps work through traffic, now maybe its age and less rage but its sort of like why bother, just cruise enjoy the ride. Yet when I am in the lotus or ferrari I cant help myself but to go as all out as would be slighlty sane, it just comes over me.

    I dont know, maybe its maturity or something.
     

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