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The E Jaguar should have built

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  1. msdesignltd

    msdesignltd Two Time F1 World Champ
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    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22NTet2n-Sg]Jaguar XK-E - Jay Leno's Garage - YouTube[/ame]


    Probably a repost, sorry..

    But certainly worth watching...over and over

    This car used the best styling, from all series and so on...

    I like the way he say ...heavily modified
     
  2. JeremyJon

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    Love it, even Enzo remarked the E-type being the 'most beautiful'
     
  3. msdesignltd

    msdesignltd Two Time F1 World Champ
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    go to minute 2:11
    does Jays car top the eagle???
    its close....but

    I'll take the Eagle...


    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66owXqZaexs]E-type and Eagle Speedster - Top Gear - BBC - YouTube[/ame]
     
  4. rdefabri

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    I'll take my '66 FHC thanks. However, I do think the SIII V12 should have been short wheelbase cars, the longer wheelbase kills the design IMHO.
     
  5. dwhite

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    When I was looking for a car in 99 there was a person who had a v12 in a 66. Now that is way better than a late model (72-74) etype with flares; they kill the beauty of the original design IMO.
     
  6. Edward 96GTS

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    i always thought a series 1 e type with a ferrari v12 would be the ultimate etype. the ferrari v12(single ohc) is much smaller than the jags v12. with ansa exhaust ofcourse.
     
  7. msdesignltd

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    Mmmmm.... I dunno. I don't think anyone under the age of 50 would care for it. It's us old foggies who like these things.

    I'm not crazy about resto rods either. You take out the character of the car and keep the styling. It's the Chip Foose version of a E type.

    Butchery of a classic? Maybe to some.
     
  9. JCR

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    The S3 V-12 was a very flawed car. Those are excellent upgrades.
     
  10. msdesignltd

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  11. kverges

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    I love it. I have often thought of doing a restomod E-type. I have no enormous love for the Jaguar engines - I would be tempted to swap in a 90's supra twin turbo engine for example.
     
  12. James_Woods

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    ^^^ this. The magic touch was gone.
     
  13. TheMayor

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    I'm sure that's what a lot of guys in the 60's and seventies said when they took out a 250, 275, or 330 V12 from a Ferrari and put in a small block.

    Is the car better now because it was faster? I don't think so.
     
  14. JeremyJon

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    It's a great recycling of a rather ungainly 2+2 E-type, looks fantastic IMO, even if it wasn't an original specification ;)
     
  15. kverges

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    Better is subjective and of course a restomod is not for everyone. I think with Ferraris especially, originality is key and I also think the Columbo V-12 is very highly regarded and probably pretty robust and reliable. I am not so sure about the Jaguar 6 and 12 cylinder engines, and the E-type was produced in high enough numbers that I don't view it as much of a crime to modify one. For example, the fairly plentiful Corvette restomod business is thriving and you will very often find a restomod going for a higher price than a numbers-matching restored car, unless it is an L88 or some other rarity.

    This car was cobbled together from less-desired cars and I suspect lots of spares since the owner appears to bein the Jag business, so I think he re-purposed what would otherwise be junk.

    Personally, I view restomods as an effort to make classic styling more reliable and usable. I have a 1961 Corvette that is very original, other than a non-matching serial number on the otherwise correct date-coded block. Gorgeous car, but 52 years is a long time and it drives very poorly - unlike most of my other cars, it can't go into the rotation for daily driver duty and will never see the track (drum brakes - yikes!). If I wanted that kind of styling but to drive it daily, I'd definitely do a restomod.

    Ferraris really are different animals, especially the Enzo-era cars. The early cars are extremely rare, the value hinges on originality, and frankly most Ferrari owners just don't drive their cars and when they do it is to cruise to some kind of show, dinner or for some other non-performance-oriented purpose. Heck, even the incredibly competent and versatile 458 does not get driven by most owners. So reliablity, usability and to some extent even performance don't matter for older Ferraris, hence modifications make no sense and I'd agree that a restomod Ferrari is a terrible idea.

    I still really like this E-type
     
  16. JCR

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    The Jag 6 is much more reliable and durable than the Colombo V-12. The early V-12 had serious flaws and went through several revisions to correct them. The Jag 6 with minor revisions was in production for almost 40 years.
     
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    I defer to you on that one. Anecdotally, friends with E-Types and even later cars had many problems, which is why I made the statement. In any event, I'd want to go with EFI. Carbs are simply dreadful devices that should only be used if originality is paramount.
     
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    While I'm probably close to being an old foggie, I'm definitely under 50!!!

    I purchased my E-Type in my late 30's, I'm now 44 and love the car!
     
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    Yes, the motors are quite robust. One issue is the rope seals - the design in and of itself isn't so hot per the mechanic that worked on my car.

    The fact that this basic engine was in production for as long as it was is a testament to the quality of the design.
     
  20. kverges

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    I am not sure length of production is a good yardstick - the Trabant was made from 1957-90.
     
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    2-stroke Trabis rule!

    You have a point...
     
  22. nathandarby67

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    Heck, I'm 36, and would have LOVED to have this car (or any E-Type) from about the age of 17 onwards. Of course I am weird, and admit to having an MG TD in the garage at he moment.
     
  23. 95spiderman

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    Its a cool one for sure but so much effort to put in a lunp of a v12. Is it really worth it over a lighter built up six?

    Btw, how boring is jay on these shows? Idk how a pro comic/host can be so dull when talking about his passion. No humor vs someone like clarkson and no real info you get from chris harris. Jay should be by far best
     
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    #24 Pav, Jun 30, 2013
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    I tend to disagree. A 25 year old girl (gf of a friend of mine) drives hers everyday during the summer season in Warsaw.
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