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2013 F1 SANTANDER BRITISH GRAND PRIX: RACE ### SPOILERS ###

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  1. 4re Nut

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  2. Ferraripilot

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    I wonder if Bernie asked for exploding tires......
     
  3. Gerry328

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  4. VIZSLA

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    And yet they've resigned for 2014?

    Idiots.
     
  5. Simon^2

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    And the same is true for the cars... So why do MFG's race?

    No Pirellis for me.

    They are in F1 to increase the brand, and as a result make money. This is NOT increasing their brand value.
     
  6. kraftwerk

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    Well to be honest I have had enough of this tyre BS, what will it take.. a death, Merc are getting feed to the pigs on here if they do good, yet I see no overall tyre improvement, in fact it appears to have gone worse.

    It is not rocket science Pirelli have been told to make this sort of tyre for the show, and now we are witnessing the results which are a complete and utter joke.
     
  7. ricksb

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    Being complicit with the devil's demand to create an inferior, compromised product for the purpose of creating spectacle is indeed their crime. While I realize this has nothing to do with their consumer products, the average non-F1 fan will see the headlines tomorrow and conclude that Pirellis are terrible tires.

    They have an ENORMOUS PR nightmare on their hands...
     
  8. Ferraripilot

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    Germany should be interesting, it's a good bit harder on tires there.......
     
  9. VIZSLA

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    We can only hope that they'll be allowed to effect the needed redesign after today's cluster fug.

    You'd think so, but they just dont get it.
    Paul H has emerged from hiding and is talking to the press.
    Saying nothing but at least facing the press.
     
  10. ricksb

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    Is it Hockenheim or Nurburgring? (I can't readily recall)

    Hockenheim is much harder on the tires than Silverstone, Nurburgring marginally so.
     
  11. classic308

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    Did MB test that new tire already? Hmmmmm. Sorry the stench from the affair mandates that all teams sans MB get to test for a 1000 km with their team drivers. Without a test for other teams then I will consider this a tainted championship as will other fans. FIA created this mess, they must fix it.
     
  12. Ferraripilot

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    Nurburgring. It will be a different kind of wear really, lots of wide sweeping mechanical turns which will put some heat in the tires.
     
  13. VIZSLA

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    From the post race interviews it looks like everybody finally catchin the drift.

    Too bad it took so long.
     
  14. VIZSLA

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    Tainted championship?

    Of course it is. Tires are the least of it though.
     
  15. SPEEDCORE

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    Neweys interview makes it clear that its tire construction not compounds that are the issue.
    In that Increasing tire pressure ameliorated the issue.
     
  17. ricksb

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    It depends on the headlines. I now see F1 results as a top story on Yahoo's front page. If the story is "Rosberg survives Pirelli tire failures to win Silverstone" or anything similar, then their consumer products have a PR nightmare to deal with. I look at some of the comments on F1 stories and the short-sighted ignorance is amazing (e.g. "I don't know why this "sport" is allowed to continue. More drivers have died in the past year than MMA has ever lost")

    They will take a negative story about tires and draw uneducated conclusions, no doubt.
     
  18. TifosiUSA

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    :rolleyes:

    You can't be serious
     
  19. ricksb

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    The tires were changed this year to a softer sidewall construction with harder shoulders. The purpose was to create more flexing in the sidewall, resulting in more heat and higher degradation.

    Softening the sidewall structure sounds like a losing proposition...it's not like they're driving at low-stress speeds.
     
  20. ricksb

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    Steve is saying the tires have gotten worse, not Merc. Merc have clearly improved.
     
  21. VIZSLA

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    I really don't care how the Pirelli PR shakes out. I do want the sport to address the tire issue, and while they're at it, it would be nice if they learned something about management in general from the debacle.
     
  22. VIZSLA

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    Engineers aren't trained to design failures.
    When they do, unexpected things happen.
     
  23. TifosiUSA

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    Don't think so
     
  24. schumacherf2006

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    By not allowing in season testing is the result of today. A tire manufacturer has to have on track data on a constant basis to produce the best tire possible.

    FIA needs to change this immediately
     
  25. Cozmic_Kid

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    Spectacular race :)


    My guess is the tire issue can be traced back to the same production line.
     

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