No. for real racing - Grand Prix still stands the test of time. nothing since has come close. LeMans Wining are the only other movies even remotely in the same leauge. Senna - is a documentary... and a good one, but not anything like Grand Prix. I have confidence in Rush... but I'm already disapointed that the car's are replicas... the guy playing Lauda is dead on... so we'll have to see. I do hope its a good movie. As a Kid i can vividly remember Lauda's accident and his comeback. Saw him in person at the glen that year... he did look terrible. I was never a Hunt fan, so basically to me he was a dirty school boy ... nothing more. lucky to be in a McLaren at the time... for me Lauda was clearly the world Champion in 76 - and it was Ferrari who let him down by having engine problems in France.
Indeed. Lots of fakes in that movie. I like Grand Prix for the aerial shots of the real race cars but as a movie it is horrible: terrible acting and a dopey plot
The cars in Grand Prix were Formula 3 cars that were rigged up by Bert Russell... his first school gig... to look like the BRM, Ferrari, and McLaren... they also used some authentic cars - BRM with Jackie Stewart driving as well as cars with Jack Brabaham.. they also had access to the Ferrari cars during the movie - but not when on track. They used actuall Ferrari's for sarti's shots at Clermont Ferrand and at Monza in the pits. for its day its amazing. for Rush - with so many actuall F-1 cars of the era around, I'm suprised they dont use the actual cars
1) Le Mans is the greatest racing flick of all time 2) I was young when Hunt was racing and my memory was that he had all the good looking babes around him, so hatred was not my emotion...more "I wanna be HIM when I grow up". He looked like he was having fun and living the life....less so Lauda, who seemed all business. 3) The way computer animation is invading film, I doubt we'll ever see a successor to Le Mans. My favorite version was on Speed a few years ago with various breaks to interview McQueen's kid and others....some great stories about Ferrari and Porsche and supplies of parts/engines and other tales. 4) "A French Kiss with Death".....a book about the making of Le Mans. How many books will be written about Rush that will have as many great stories about the making of the film? NONE. Who wants to hear about animators drinking $5 lattes and spending half their time engaging in social media? 5) I'm too old to argue with. Just let me have my opinions and take them for what they are.
Hunt was a character - some loved him, some hated him. His personality hid some of his positive traits. And remember, he was instrumental in bringing Gilles to F1, and one of the reasons he left McLaren was because they let Gilles go.
Rush has used actual cars. I remember when I was at last year's Historic GP in Monaco, there was a 312T2 missing. They announced that the car was crashed during the filming of Rush and therefore didn't make the event.
Road and Track July has previewed Rush and their comment is: This is the best racing movie ever. Not because of footage (there they give the nod to Grand Prix and Le Mans) but because of its story and entertainment value. This will be a racing movie, which also non gearheads will enjoy.
Hmmmm.... no one plays Enzo. To say Enzo was not involved directly in the drama of what happened then is pretty lame. I think "race" movies have a really limited appeal, at least in America. And, the injuries that Niki received are pretty gross for a lot of women viewers. I can see a backlash against racing more than a help to promote racing. The one thing I think we all have admit: For Niki to get back into the car so quickly after that crash is something I don't think many could have done. It's a story that needs to be told.
Absolutely true. In 1976, I was living in LA and still remember picking up the Times on Monday morning to get the race results. (Yes kids, there was a time when F1 races, or even results were not on TV.) Opening up the sport pages (and I remember this as clearly as if it were yesterday), I was shocked by the story headline "Lauda near Death after Fiery Crash". His comeback seemed almost superhuman.
And why Niki will always be one of my favs...I'm hoping they emphaize his courage and determination in the movie.
it's going to be a hot Hollywood mess. appealing to the lowest common denominator. and Ron Howard isn't great director he is a $$$$$ man at the box office and that why it will get nada from the critics. lets be honest he is no Darren Aronofsky, Derek Cianfrance, Danny Boyle or Nicolas Winding Refn. At the end if the day the true F1 fans would have been much more happy with a gritty true critically acclaimed pic that could run up a Oscar nod. and that's what counts today the Osc Nod. not the wack as s fast and the furious garbage that litterly props up one of the biggest studios in the world because it generates more revenue than any other picture in development. and the stars of that movie can get arrested in any other movie. and sorry about the rant but I work In the industry and I can't stand when they give a good script to a salad tosser like Howard. And yes arrested development is one of the best 5 tv shows ever but he isn't writing! he is a freaking narrator. Give props to horiwitz not Howard.
sorry but the senna doc is the best motion pic that has anything to do with F1. (not my opinion but the critic's) And I've already seen a advanced screening of movie and it was a waste of 2 hours. NBC is getting all sorts of money to promote this Turd.
Driven was better sorry to say. don't waste your 18 dollars on a seat in the theater. Download it from pirate bay and deprive the studio of their blood money.
Here are some excerpts from Rob Walker's race report in the November '76 Road & Track. Words in parentheses are mine: Exactly why the accident happened, I don't know. The driver behind Niki on the first lap told me Lauda was having great difficulty in controlling the car and was wrestling with it all the way, not going particularly fast either. This was before the wheels were changed. (The race was started on a wet track, and most drivers, including Lauda, who made a "terrible start", started on wet tires and pitted for slicks at the end of the first lap.) Afterward, and just before the accident, Niki passed (Guy) Edwards early on and Guy was about 50 yards behind him. Guy thought Lauda lost the car because his newly put-on slicks were cold and not gripping. The following morning I asked Regazzoni (Lauda's Ferrari teammate) if anything had broken on Niki's car and he said, "Nothing broke, he just lost it on the outside. The cars were handling atrociously and I spun mine three times." Pure speculation, but I wonder whether the lack of an intermediate tire on a partially dry fourteen mile circuit could have been a factor.
Good catch on R & T; it was walker's reports that got me into f1 racing. So the theory is driver error? I've seen video on YouTube and to me it appears that the car snaps suddenly.
It's just too dramatic. to monetized for me. But I'm jaded with this type if thing. I'm a huge Indy film fan so it's hard for me to get my mind around a opie film. and it drives me insane seeing opie at the races like he is a F1 fan. Where was he in the past? He is at the races for promo for the film and that's it. He is probley watching NASCAR on his IPhone at the races.
I often like your comments more than the rest but on this one I have a feeling we won't find much common ground. Aside from F1 my other passion is manned space flight and I've seen pretty much everything there is in fiction as well as in documentaries and have to say Howard's Apollo 13 is about as good as it gets for that genre. If he only did half as good a job in Rush as in Apollo 13, then this movie will stand way above the rest.
Thanks for all that. Didn't know it. Sounds like driver error. I definitely believe whatever Rega had to say.
All good, I know I have a really critical eye when it comes to films and I don't speak for 99% of the movie going public. I hope everyone enjoys the movie honesty I just invision this brought to life in a different way than it was.
