Something to add to Pascal's story...At the relatively recent times, some really talented boys, did some art continuation, in other field (Robert Driessen, Federico Joni, Han van Megereen...just to name some of them), never signing with others name their continuations, and entered in the history as biggest forgers ever. Well, I understand that my English and also English used by Pascal are not good enough to explain the concept of originality of some products, but at least in old Europe, in my country (I am Italian) these enterprises must be called copies. Just to clear, extremely well made Ferrari SWB 250 California replica, produced by Swiss Sbarro, was sold under Sbarro, and not Ferrari name, and had not Ferrari badges on it though it was perfectly identical to original. It was not cheap car, but the difference with original was unfathomable. The same with Lotus 7- Caterham 7 story and so on...I am sure that that was Pascal's main idea about the continuation versions generally. But beside the dispute about authenticity, I am really astonished by the quality and quantity of research material posted here. I have had some marginal touches with ISO and Bizzarrini in the past, but my knowledge was about 25% of the facts produced here...Just great!
One of the Three Final Cars Built by Famed Italian Engineer Giotto Bizzarrini to be Offered at Russo and Steele?s Highly Anticipated Monterey Auction what a joke and Lie ! Here photo of the parts delivery by Giotto, badly welded chassis, empty fiberglass, the car was not built by Giotto at all, but built in germany where chassis and body was redone Image Unavailable, Please Login
What was done to the chassis, besides attaching components ? LOL as far as the bad welding goes that just helps prove it was built by bizzarrini
Scoop. New scam orchestred by Jack Hoob de Hartog who offer privately this complet fake supposed chassis 228 for 450 000 euro. And the American ISO Bizzarrini club is complice as this crook is everywhere on their web site and try to pick up victims This car was built in Italy a fews years ago and can be very easely seen as a bad replica. Of course Jack dont make too much publicity for it as he try without success to stay below the radar of the real experts. Your comments are welcome but I m sure that the Club will defend him as he may share the profit ? Image Unavailable, Please Login
Here is the IBOC website, the IBOC is the official Iso Bizzarrini club for North America. I don't see anything you mention, so I'm not sure what your taking about? http://www.isobizclub.com/
Yes, that the Club, if the offer was honest and real, dont you think that they will discuss aboiut it there ? But they dont, as Hartog try to burn somebody under the radar
Why the fake 228 is not on the isobizchat where Hartog is a member ? Everythings is clear and it s scandal that he is still part on this club if this one known about his wrong behaviour. When you see a crime and dont report it, you are complice Image Unavailable, Please Login
Where exactly would it be discussed there? Maybe I'm blind but I see no facility to discuss anything on that site. Of course, this question won't be answered, just like my other questions in this thread. Instead of constantly attacking others, why not try to participate in some meaningful discussion?
You see, you blame me of attacking others when in reality, I TRY TO SAVE a collector NOT TO BE BURN by theses people. When you put a real chassis number on a FAKE car and try to sell it under the radar, you are a criminal and the real collector are happy by my intervention, many people from this club are involve in criminal behaviour.
@pascal2012 As Edmund Burke said, “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” With your intimate knowledge of these activities it may be appropriate for you to report this to the US Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). I suspect they will want to hear all of the details and the evidence that you have. You can find FBI contact information for their European offices at this link: FBI ? Europe And their main contact page is - FBI ? Contact Us Once they start their investigation it is possible that they will ask you to keep all information on these matters confidential until their investigation is complete.
Chassis 271 = What the name for it ? I believe that the car was original at some point but chassis number is wrong, car have been rebuilt like a buggy...or a kit car, what s disaster Image Unavailable, Please Login
Where is B210/B214, the car that I once owned, built from two Sebring wrecks? Not the fake 214, but the car that was built by Max Balchowsky from the front of one and the rear of the other. Still in the barn?
