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Ferrari LaFerrari vs Mclaren P1 vs Porsche 918

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  1. xybyx

    xybyx Rookie

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    Is it true that LaFerrari failed its crash test? Saw this on other forum..
     
  2. Mikestradale

    Mikestradale F1 Rookie

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    LaFerrari on Fiorano

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqLIsUCoL9w]Ferrari LaFerrari Sound and Accelerations! - YouTube[/ame]
     
  3. scuderia92

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  4. qwertstnbir

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    this is the only new generation hypercar with good sound, even 918 without turbo sound bad
     
  5. scuderia92

    scuderia92 Formula Junior

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    Well, in my opinion the P1 and 918 doesn't sound that bad. The LaFerrari however sounds much better :)
     
  6. mathematics

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    #1756 mathematics, Jul 21, 2013
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  7. mathematics

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    +1

    918 note is not completed yet. Regardless I believe the LaFa will sound much better.
     
  8. scuderia92

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    The front is absolutely beautiful. Don't know what to think about the backside, maybe it needs to grow on me. However, the exhausts are really cool!
     
  9. ztunelover

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    Everyone keeps calling the 918 the failure of this generation of hypercars. Let's be honest, the Lamborghini Veneno is the biggest failure of this lot. it's way down on power and much higher on weight than it should be, and if I'm honest it's a bit ugly. and you can have a ferrari the ferrari, the mclaren p1, and the porsche 918 with some money leftover for the cost of one veneno, that gets dusted by all three of them.
     
  10. scuderia92

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    You're right about that. Love Lamborghini, the Aventador looks amazing. But the Veneno has the same tech as the 'cheap Aventador' and is also very ugly in my opinion. Massive failure...
     
  11. merstheman

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    The Veneno is more of a design exercise than a car made to showcase the best Lamborghini has to offer. They only made 3 so that they could make a fuss out of it, but I don't even consider it in the same league as the cars being discussed in this thread.

    And the 918 is far from a failure.
     
  12. mathematics

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    918 is by no means a failure and I haven't really heard anyone who thinks so. It will probably be the more sensible hypercar than P1 and LaFa.

    Veneno does not exist.
     
  13. MarkNC

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    I was at Goodwood this year (amazing show that I encourage every auto enthusiast to try to attend at least once in their lifetime!) and the McLaren P1 sounded fantastic in person.
     
  14. asianbond

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    being a Carrera Gt owner I gave further thought to the new 918 which I had consider purchasing.

    The 918 breaks no new ground in design from the CGT, it share some similiar features and profile.

    In the CGT i get the manual box, full carbon fiber tub, exotic free revving sounding v10, pure uninterruped sculpted design lines. it produce 612 hp, weight 1380 kg, cost $450k when new. All the elements of a proper super car.

    In the 918, i get 600hp from v8, 875hp in full hybrid mode, weighs 1675kg, cost double the price at close to $1mn, a more generic supercar design which can pass for a mclaren or ascari.

    So what is the 918 selling point? The extra hp from the hybrid mode which you have to sacrifice with more weight?

    There are some on this board who feels Porsche has a winner which I find is due to blind faith assuming that Porsche has the ultimate plan that we are not bright enough to figure out.

    I'm a typical buyer for such a car and I can't find a good reason to buy it. The extra weight and complexity of the hybrid is a major deterrent and also how I would prefer the CGT over it. yes, it may perform better, but that is never the sole determinate factor.

    With the LF at least Ferrari made the effort to produce 800hp with NA v12 and kept weight at 1255kg even with the hybrid crap. The design is a major evolution from enzo.
     
  15. 95spiderman

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    I think hybrid supercars are ridiculous too but govt regulations are mandating them. manufactures have no choice but to make these supercars and then let the tech trickle down to their volume cars. Its either make these or go out of business.
     
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  18. PSk

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    #1768 PSk, Jul 22, 2013
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    They are simply learning the technology, and as we have techies designing and buying cars now who love this stuff it makes sense to have a play.

    I think it is great, but yes I can understand why some don't "get it" but I also work in IT so I know that cars by themselves don't excite as many people any more, they all are into Apples, Facbook, etc.
    Pete
     
  19. giacomodiroma

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    The comparison test that I wish not to read:
    McLaren P1 accelerates faster, brakes better, handles road and track condition supremely and weighs less. But Ferrari LaFerrari sounds so good, we must award it the first place. It is much more addictive to listen to and it looks so sexy in red.
    Please Ferrari, please make LaFerrari a true winner!
     
  20. asianbond

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    popeye- two cars look nothing alike?

    i believe you are being deceived by the various scoops and minor styling features of the 918.

    if you look at the front hood profile and front fender curves the 918 and ascari are very similair, sure they have different front bumper grilles and headlight shapes

    they share similar side scallop intake treatment and identical lower side valances

    then their rear quarter panels share the same profile

    this profile is very generic these days even the mclaren shares similiar features

    it's very simple, with your $1mn, will you buy a 918, or will you buy a LF, P1 or CGT with $ leftover.
     
  21. REALZEUS

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    The quoted 0-300 kph tims indicate that LaFerrari will kill the P1 in a straight line. It should too as it is more powerful and lighter. For the rest we 'll have to wait.
     
  22. noone1

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    Um, how is 0-300 any indication of overall straight line performance? What about something like 0-200 or 0-250? How do you know the P1 doesn't just lose steam at 275 and that when the LF pulls ahead?

    Consider a GTR in a drag race. It beats cars that have higher trap speeds. Why? Because it's really quick in the low speeds and runs out of steam in the high speeds.

    Being quicker 0-300 is really no indication of what happens 0-299, just like 0-60 is no indication of 0-300.
     
  23. giacomodiroma

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    So if I understand correctly RealZeus, LaFerrari will win P1 on a long straight when it will accelerate from 0 -300 km/h in 15 seconds.
    That is an official time? If LaFerrari is not production ready and it is true that it has not pass the crash test this will mean more weight. Will this mean the acceleration time will still not change?
    Also, if McLaren P1 acceleration time for 0 – 300 km/h is declared to be less then 17 seconds, does this mean that it is possible for P1 to be 14 seconds since 14 is less then 17?
     
  24. REALZEUS

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    In real life, less than 17 means 16.something. Both are times announced by the factories.
     
  25. mathematics

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    I respect your opinion but I completely disagree.

    Yes, with $1mm I will buy the 918 and drive it everyday and get more use out of it, with roof up or down. By the way P1 and LF cost substantially more, and in my opinion the 918 is the most beautiful out the 3 as well.

    Cheers
     

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