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  1. vectorfiles

    vectorfiles Formula Junior

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    Are you sure?
    The used to be with the same owner for years before they were confiscated by US Marshals and auctioned off.

    I will call the owner of the yellow 012 and see what he knows about 001.
     
  2. Scott85

    Scott85 Formula 3

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    I'm not sure , but it's quite a coincidence that both would end up back in Cincinnati.
     
  3. Str8shooter

    Str8shooter Formula 3

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  4. vectorfiles

    vectorfiles Formula Junior

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    do you have the original link to the page on photographer bill moore ?
    I cannot find the event and photos.
     
  5. Jet-X

    Jet-X F1 Veteran

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    Newest issue of Autoweek has a picture of the white W8 at a car event in Detroit last week. I thought the white W8 went to Japan?

    Also the responses in the magazine or funny - someone claiming to have seen one in pieces in someones garage.
     
  6. XR4Tim

    XR4Tim Formula 3

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    There are 3 white W8s. One is in MI (though it was in Japan long ago).
     
  7. nthfinity

    nthfinity F1 Veteran

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    Almost... White in MI was owned by a Japanese collector, but resided in CA until it moved to MI.

    The other was in CA until a legal issue ensued, and the owner brought it to Japan in an attempt to sell it for 1MM-ish.

    Easy to tell the two apart, the one in Japan has grey vents on the engine cover, and the one in Michigan has black vents.

    The one in Michigan also has a different mirror with wholes in it, that route into the cabin. The other one does not.

    The other main difference is the one in Michigan has a blue tint, whereas the other has an orange tint to the white.

    There are no other white W8's.

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    I can promise that White 015 wasn't in southeast Michigan recently, however, it has attended several shows in Northern Michigan recently. I think it is unlikely that 008 is in Michigan.
     
  8. XR4Tim

    XR4Tim Formula 3

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    I could have sworn there were two white/gold pearl W8s, but it's been a while since I've looked into that, and I will defer to your resources.
     
  9. AxerJk

    AxerJk Formula 3

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    Wow! Which event was it?

    Chris
     
  10. Str8shooter

    Str8shooter Formula 3

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    Sorry, I didn't see your post until just now.

    I don't have any pictures of this show on my website. I dug these out of my files.

    These are all that I took of the Vector except for one interior shot of the steering wheel
    and dash which I didn't post here.
     
  11. nthfinity

    nthfinity F1 Veteran

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    Boyne Thunder friday night car show (july 11th)
    Cherry Fest car show in TC
    Possibly was at the st. Ignace car show too... maybe something else that I'm forgetting.
     
  12. Javi Cooper

    Javi Cooper Rookie

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    This has been bugging me for a loooong time...

    There was a yellow M12 in Miami in the late 90's that was a rental car at one of Miami's various fly-by-night exotic rental places, now long gone. I would always see it on display at the rental place - it barely moved. Last time I saw it it was in 1999 parked on one of Miami Beach's main streets behind a yellow Diablo during a very packed Superbowl weekend (it was played in Miami that year). The crowd that formed around those two cars was insane.

    Since then I've been really dying to know the history of that car - how in the world a Vector ends up as a rental car and what happened to it afterwards. Many Fchat and Google searches haven't revealed any info which seems odd as these cars seem to be well documented.
     
  13. CK7684

    CK7684 Formula 3

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    Wasn't the owner murdered?
     
  14. vectorfiles

    vectorfiles Formula Junior

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    That is M12 chassis 002. The car is now in the North West, owned by a member of this forum.
     
  15. vectorfiles

    vectorfiles Formula Junior

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    No, the owner of the yellow W8 was murdered.
     
  16. AxerJk

    AxerJk Formula 3

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    WOAH!! I didn't hear about that. Is it the guy who recently sold it that was murdered, or the original owner?

    Chris
     
  17. CK7684

    CK7684 Formula 3

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    Not a recent story. I don't know the details...
     
  18. Vector W8

    Vector W8 Formula Junior

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    1st owner was a pharmaceutical mogul in Texas. He sold the car to a person in Florida that destroyed the car by taking it to a Porsche dealer for "modifications and service" who did ghastly things to the car, he sold the car just before he died from cancer. The car was then sold to an owner in California who found that the car did not run well due to the previous owners dealings at the Porsche repair center. He then bastardized it further by taking it to the next logical place for service, His favorite Hummer dealer, who promptly pulled the engine out and rebuilt it with god knows what for internals, since he did not get any assistance from any of the original Vector team. This owner felt he knew more about the car than the original build team, his work can be witnessed by a great video of it on youtube where is backfires and sputters as it goes down the road. By the way several people from the original Vector team were in contact with him the entire time he just didn't want to listen to anything they said. He then gladly sold it to a person in Spain or Italy where it currently resides.

    Its current owner has however visited members of the original Vector team in California and has been working with them to undo many of the items that were done in haste. This car will eventually be brought back to original condition by its current owner.

    No one died.

    But that is not the case for one of the Japanese owned cars. Its original owner was a Keri Tzu boss who was murdered. The car sat for sale on a used car lot in Japan for years because no one wanted to be associated with it for fear of retaliation or mistaken identity and wind up dead for being associated with its original owner.

    Eventually it was sold and it has a happy current owner in Japan who has worked from time to time with some of the original Vector team to service items on the car.
     
  19. velocetwo

    velocetwo F1 World Champ

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  20. CK7684

    CK7684 Formula 3

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    I must be getting my stories mixed up I was thinking somebody owned both a yellow diablo & a yellow M12, and he got murdered. I could be completely wrong though.
     
  21. Javi Cooper

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    Well the rental car place who owned the yellow M12 also owned a yellow Diablo so at least that part is correct. I have no idea about the murder part though...
     
  22. Javi Cooper

    Javi Cooper Rookie

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    Thanks. Glad to hear it's still around. That thing had some serious presence parked on the street. Almost made the Diablo look docile!
     
  23. lashss

    lashss F1 Rookie

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  24. JeremyJon

    JeremyJon F1 Veteran

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    #574 JeremyJon, Nov 13, 2013
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    Gerry said he was inspired by jet fighter aircraft & IMO the most obvious influence is the Countach really

    oddly, the later Isdera looks to have been inspired by the Vector shape
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  25. lashss

    lashss F1 Rookie

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    There was no Countach when the Vector Prototype came out so difficult to say what influenced it. The W2 and later W8 details may owe some to the Countach but also the Detomaso Pantera.

    The Project 112 and Vector Prototype literally look like the offspring of the Carabo (another Bertone project) and a fighter plane.

    LS
     

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