993 Turbo

Outside of outliers like the McLaren F1, most cars won't appreciate much. Especially when you take into consideration taxes, registration, insurance, maintenance, etc. You'll break even or make a little bit, but you'd make more return on your investment elsewhere.

There was a thread about that in the supercars section saying how even the F40 just managed to breakeven when taking into consideration inflation. I'd say drive the car and if you like it, go for it. I love the looks of the 993TT and would love to have one myself one day.

 

I really believe that the 993 Turbos are going nowhere but up, as was the last air cooled turbo. Would love to have one someday, but I'm sure they will be out if reach for me, and many, very soon.

 

Responded on rennlist. I'm bbs993tt over there.

 

The bottom on 360s? Probably where the 355s sit, $50-$60k.

I came close to buying a 993 Turbo 8-9 years ago. The 50k+ mile cars are selling for the same thing they did then $60-$75k. Its the 0-10k mile cars that have appreciated, many of those go for $120k+

I think the 20-40k mile cars offer the best value right now.

Agree is a smarter financial move to get a 993TT.

 

What in particular does he hate about the 993? .... I dont own one, just curious.

The 964 is one of the sexiest models IMO....I support your decision and am curious to see what you get....good luck.

 

Completely agree with your mechanic (flame suit on). Who wants the first 4 wheel drive Turbo???

 

Well the 3.6 would be a better investment....at the expense of 45 less hp.....but the mechanic is full of something smelly if he thinks there is a big difference in running costs.

 

993 is less costly to run, in regards to 45 you can easily gain that with a .9 boost springs, cat delete and headers on a 3.6

 

Really? I've never spent anywhere close to that on mine.

 

You're going to pay more for a 50k mile 3.6 than a 50k 993TT.....just the way it is

Now I personally think that is justified by the difference in appreciation potential, primarily due to production numbers (over 4:1 ratio), and secondarily due to the last traditional upright headlights, 2WD, and the snap boost.

Be prepared to shell out $90k for a decent 3.6.

Would I want a car with $100k of mods? No.....God no.

Some minor, reversable tweaks? Maybe, but if you're going for speed look into a 996TT. Sounds like you want a collectible though.

 

959?

 

First, I think you're right in that the value is in stock form. Regarding mods, I think it all depends on what mods were done and who did them. For example, Ruf or Andial mods carry a lot more clout than most others. That said, I wouldn't want to be the one who buys a car, does six figures in mods and then plans to sell it at some point because you'll get about 1/2 of your mod money back. Now, if the mods are well respected and you can buy them for 1/2 of what a seller put into them? That's a better situation.

 

W.A.D.R. your mechanic is an idiot - 993TTs are regarded as just about the pinnacle of the Turbo era - sick fast, rock-solid, dependable, stunningly beautiful, AWD and going nowhere but up in value. 94 Turbo 3.6s build quality is crap compared to a 993 and ALL 964s - especially the Turbo 3.6s are well-documented for oil leaks and other issues.

964 Turbo's are pretty and a black 3.6 "Bad Boys" car is always desireable but anyone that advises a 964-series anything over a 993-series anything needs to check into a program.

Cheers

 

Mike - Is your 360 a 3-pedal car or F1? IMO this will eventually drive the value spread a bit for 360s so is a bit of a factor. Rough numbers for 360s is 3x+ the number of F1s vs manuals (2200-ish mauals vs 6000+ish F1s) so a 3-pedal 360 will flatten and hold quicker than an F1.

Although I am presently an F-Car owner (x2) I previously owned Porsches and would think you cannot go wrong dumping the 360 for a 993 TT. Worst-case is you find you don't like the Porsche so you sell it not losing any money and then go Ferrari shopping again

 

i had a 96TT that i sold with 74k miles on it last summer. it was more expensive to maintain than my 575.........

 

Yeah that does not surprise me - Ferrari's get such a bad rap for maintenance but many are about the same as 911s - especially Turbos. My guess is his maintenance costs will be a wash or if anything more for the 993TT versus the 360 but the 993TT is going up while the 360 is going down.

Also, if the 360 is not flipping his buttons and the 993TT does then switch! The only reason to own/drive these cars is to take your breath away looking at them and driving them. Neither are anything significant from an investment standpoint so it's all about passion and cost management IMO.

Hell I am thinking of swapping out my TR for a Maser Granturismo - talk about crazy

 

book me a place in a program. i would take a 3.6 or S Leichtbau over a 4-wheel drive 993 turbo in a heartbeat

 

But, the 964 turbo 3.6 is the last and best of the rear wheel drive 911 turbos and much more exciting to drive than the 993 turbo with its awd. And with these type cars, the excitement of the drive is why you buy it in the first place.

 

last nice 3.6 a saw was $100k asking.....

seems like the go up by the day.

don't think u can go wrong with any of the air cooled turbos

 

Likewise, 3.6 classic 911 line's and a monster of a car. I like 993 but prefer the Turbo 3.6 over it and thats why I own one instead of a 993 Turbo.