NSX for sale in Cape Coral vin# JH4NA1152RT000112

Ebay, will not let you revise a listing that has any bids on it or during the last 12hrs of the listing.

 

But what if you end the auction before the listing's time is up?

 

federal crime to tamper with odometer and perpuate fraud. NSX does not have digital odometer, so that's a lie. You got busted.

 

Exactly. After speaking with a odometer specialist they could most likely repair the broken odo Or if a new one was installed it would have a label on the door stating the date and mileage the new odo was installed. These laws are strictly enforced by the federal government.

USDOJ: Civil: CPB: Open Cases

 

circuit board my arse. nsx is old school analog, odometer and tripmeter.

if you change circuit board why need to change odometer.

If you change the whole instrument cluster then show receipt of where you bought new cluster and picture of old one.

Call the feds.
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Always....ALWAYS post ViN or ad on Nsxprime....com. The number of good used cars keeps going down over time and the NSXprime police is very good at figuring out a good car from bad.

Good Luck to the OP. NSX have held or gone up in value so this is gonna happen more often.

 

In my case an agreement was made outside of ebay - there were no bids and the seller offered to end the auction early. I'm not worried about the $150, at least I got the rest of the $500. Anytime you throw down a deposit on a car sight unseen you have to be willing to walk away from the money for any number or reasons.

 

Hello, yes you can end the listing early even with some bids on there. Those bidders may be upset but if the listing is no longer available or something broke while the auction is ongoing then you can still end early. Its yours you don't have to sell, some fees mays be charged but not the final value %fee.

 

I just got back in town again ... wow you guys have been busy trashing me. Thank you. I talked with the mechanic who did the repairs about two weeks ago ... he still has the car because I am having the fluids changed, new pads and I have been out of town. Here are the facts:

1) Yes these cars have electronic circuit boards on the back of the dash that control everything ... two in fact, one on each side. The problem with mine is that something in one board when bad. The mechanic has no idea how to fix it.

2) He recommended that I get a used one and document the mileage ... which is what I did!

3) I did not change any ebay ad after the car was listed or during or whatever (i do not think you can even do that) and I refunded the money less ebay re-listing fees because the buyer changed his mind ... I did not have to do that, but I am not trying to screw anyone!

4) I send the original dash circuit board to a local electronics shop to see if it can be repaired. Even though I had already paid over $1500 for a used one. I suppose this would be the best option since these cars are so rare.

I realize that these cars are rare and I did not intentionally try to screw anyone ... and have let anyone back out of the deal ... even after a deposit. Even the buyer (who is now posting here) should tell you (if he is being honest) that I explained to him my comment about the dash and did NOT try to cover it up or lie to him!

I guess once you guys get a feeding frenzy going, you'll say anything about anyone!

 

Dude. This is none of my business. But what does a circuit board have to do with a mechanical odometer unit? Explain where you got an odometer unit with 46000km on it.

 

I just finished reading my emails and here is what the mechanic did ... smarter than I thought ... again I did not know this was possible:

1) He took both the circuit boards from the used odometer off the gauge cluster (they are attached to the gauge cluster - asianbond and when they fail, the whole thing is usually changed) and tried them on the original gauge cluster ... and it worked.

Thanks for all the headaches pushback!

 

Whoa..... forget about changing the cluster.....try changing that car back to US left hand drive......now, THAT would be a better story.....hahahahahahaah!!!!!

 

Fred, took the words right out of my mouth!

 

I am not sure what that is suppose to mean ... but I am sure it was meant in a derogatory manner ... I expect nothing less from the trolls that bash people without knowing ... whatever!

 

No, if you noticed the photo above of the interior of the NSX, it's right hand drive. It's supposed to be a joke, it's a funny twist compared to all the craziness this thread has produced. And obviously you don't know some of us either.

 

+1....

The picture above shows a picture of a Right Hand Drive car......

Get it???

 

You know, I realized the ad was misleading and I corrected it even though I spelled it out in the description ... I told people about the situation when they called or emailed (as one guy now posting here can confirm) ... I refunded money to anyone that no longer wanted the car ... I am even spending additional money trying to make the original dash board work with a used circuit board ... and all you guys (posting here) have done is trashed me. Not that I give a crap ... but try not throwing to many rocks in your glass houses.

It would have been easy enough for me to just sell the car to some sucker without tell them anything (I had many many chances) ... but I am trying to do things right ... but do not let that stop you ... trash on!

 

Ok, here goes...

Ok, so do you have any receipts from the work? That would certainly help to assuage the doubts of some.

Then where is the documentation? You specifically told me that it was not documented and that "no one would ever know" (your words)

Now I know that isn't completely true. You did in fact edit your ad several times. Saying that you did not is patently false.

Here is a history of all the revisions that you made to the ad:

Then why would you list the mileage at 46k? Honestly, even now the car is listed at 86k when it should be listed as True Mileage Unknown.

You explained it to me AFTER you had my money. I'm not so sure the "circuit board" issue was even listed when I talked to you, based on how many times you edited the ad.

Complete honesty would have been the best course of action for you. Had you been totally forthcoming, I probably would have still bought the car. The fact that you continue to omit important details makes you appear dishonest at this point.
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I did ad and delete pics and change the open bid price ... never changed the description ...

Even with what you show above ... You gave me your deposit well after the last change ... which was a price reduction.

The description had the dash change in it even with your timeline above ... so what is your point ... that you only understood after we talked! Really ... you are the one telling half truths here!

Yes ... it was noted here that I should have listed with 86 ... and I took that point and changed that as well.

I will be glad to share all documents with the new owner ... but if you think for one moment I am gonna throw someone else into this bashing ... so you guys can trash his business ... you are sadly mistaken! The new owner will have all docs!

I did say that you would be the only one that would know that the car had 86k because it was so clean ... I DID NOT SAY THAT SO YOU COULD ATTEMPT A SCAM ON SOMEONE ELSE! Again ... half truth!

 

The ebay ad says differently. I'm not accusing you of anything other than editing the ad. I can't say what the edits were, there is no way to be certain.

I never specified the reason for you telling me that. I can't say for certain, but those are your words. If you say that's what you meant, then fine. I can't say for certain why you said that.

I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt (and still am) but the further this saga continues the more doubts I have.

For me, it was not worth it to take any risks with the car. Even after discovering that the mileage was incorrect, if you had provided documentation of the dash swap (you said there was none), clutch change, and other maintenance items I asked for, I still might have been ok with the deal. Unfortunately there was very little to give me any confidence in what I was getting into.

The first thing that put me back was the fact that you did not (and still haven't) list the car as TMU, which would be the correct way to categorize the car. Just saying it is mileage exempt means nothing, because a car can be mileage exempt and still have the correct mileage. The second thing that put me back is that you told me that the car had a total mileage of about 80,000. When I saw that the car had more miles than that three years ago, I had to wonder. Then when you kept insisting on me shipping the car and didn't promptly provide documentation of the clutch/timing belt/water pump that I asked for, that was enough for me.

Now, for some reason you deny having edited the ad and refuse to post any sort of documentation... Sure, it's possible that it's all an unfortunate misunderstanding for you, but I want people to be able to judge for themselves. My intention here is not to drag you through the mud, only to bring to light my experience trying to purchase the car.

These screenshots were taken after I had paid the deposit for the car. I noticed the mention of the dash swap in the ad when I viewed it again after the auction had ended, and immediately started asking questions to the seller.
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Your ad misrepresented the car's actual mileage. As far as I know, nothing you've posted in response to that fact negates your liability.

Don't want to screw anyone?

Step up, admit what you did was wrong, and refund the man the listing fees. That's the least you can do given that a crime has been committed here, and ignorance of the law - ?! - isn't an excuse.

 

I see that my attempt at an explanation was a complete waste of time. Believe what you want.

 

Why would I list it as TMU ... I have the documents and the original cluster is in the car ... it has been repaired by combining parts. I still have not seen the car because the shop is closed for the weekend and I got back too late on Friday, but I have no reason to doubt that it has been repaired.
Even if he could not repair the original ... I could still calculate the mileage from the documents.

 

Ryan in GA or 944turbo or whatever, You still are insinuating that I changed the ad after you sent the deposit, you know that is not the case ... why not read back a few pages where the verbiage in the ad is being discussed ... many days before you sent a deposit. Not my fault you can not read!

 

Here is what was written on 8/20 at 5:20 ... but again Ryan, do let the facts getting in the way of a good trashing

"The ad also states that I have replaced the dash and that is why the car is mileage exempt ..."

Funny how you can do all this research and leave out this out ... and then accuse me of changing my ad. What is next ... I must have changed the date/time on the ferrarichat posting!