I suspect the F12, well equiped, will be a few thousands more. Either way, we are talking $300,000 to $400,000 cars, so I doubt many (if any) would buy one or another based on the relative price. Two thoughts come to mind: 1) They are a mid-engine sports car and a front-engine GT. So, not worth comparing in my mind (but I stipulate that others' find the comparison meaningful). Put simply, I am a would-be Speciale buyer and I couldn't care less if its faster (or not) than F12 (or Aventador, or Nissan GTR or MP4-12C, or whatever). Because, these cars are so capable, powerful and fast, that they are all well beyond my driving skills and their limits are so far beyond my risk profile when tracking. 2) Someone posted here or in another one of the many threads on this (I can't recall where) a great answer to your question. Paraphrasing, the more powerful F12 will likely do well on some tracks, while the presumably more nimble 458 on tighter tracks.
I got on Presentation FERRARI 458 SPECIALE in Maranellu orchard 6x image 15x21 cm + Press Text . Image Unavailable, Please Login
I have stand passes for Frankfurt on the 14th September then London dealership viewing Early October Also
Slightly off topic, but what's the rear brake problem of the 458 you're referring to? A friend of mine with a 458 Italia had a hard brake pedal and almost no retardation when trying to stop from 230kph, and he's getting no explanation from the local dealer as to what might have caused that. Has this rear brake problem you refer to got anything to do with such a thing? My friend has lost confidence in his car over this issue.
My brakes are feeling very hard at low speed - Plan to take it to the dealer soon will post their response
I am not liking the front at all....just wish it looked better. I am sure it will perform awesome. The looks are just not doing it for me....
The rear brake problems are in reality "brake pads excessive consumption". When you race your car, (on race tracks) the active electronic controls (you can switch off them) will help you, using the rear brake control This at the end created several problems of excessive rear brake consumption. Everyone used to race the car has experienced these annoying problems. In the new Speciale, this will not happen.
This is also consistent w any contemporary Ferrari not just the 458. The nannies on also puts additional strain on the F1 transmission. How else do you guys expect the nannies to help keep the car on the track? Pixie dust? Some ppl Ive talked too think I'm "brave" for driving w all nannies off, I tell them I'm just trying to prolong the longevity of my baby. Besides, at the track for lamen non-pro ppl like myself, you only have to go as fast as you want to. If I'm still having fun, that's as fast as I need to go.
I heard some rumors last Monday in Maranello ..Pixie dust system will be for sure introduced in the 458's successor.. They have some problems to find the right supplier . As you know, they are very hard in their selection..
Experienced the same thing and almost went through an intersection, brakes were super hard and would barely bite. I searched on these forums and there was quite a few people experiencing that, including someone who nearly crashed on a track with these things. What a cluster ****.
the brakes need to be warm. CCM (Carbon Ceramic Material) cools down faster than steel. Were the brakes cold? Were the brakes too hot? Great article on CCM brakes in latest Forza.
Probably most of you already got this invitation by email. I attach it here for all the others . Possibly it could be appreciated.Stay tuned.. "There are just a few days to go before the opening of the Frankfurt International Motor Show at which, on September 10th, Ferrari will staging the world unveiling of the 458 Speciale, an uncompromising new 8-cylinder designed and built entirely in Maranello itself. The powerful new V8 car punches out 605 cv and boasts the highest specific power output of any production Ferrari ever built. In fact, it has achieved the impressive feat of improving on its already exceptional, multi-award-winning predecessor, the 458 Italia. To coincide with the official launch at Frankfurt, log on at 13.00 and enjoy the official video plus a host of other exclusive content including a virtual tour of the cars cockpit, a sample of its engine soundtrack and digital details of the 458 Speciale most innovative technical features."
Sorry if repost but just came across this vid of the Speciale [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN321HGYq5k]2x FERRARI 458 SPECIALE - First spot on road 2013 HQ - YouTube[/ame]
Where the Speciale stripes came from? Picture of a 458 Spider taken from the Ferrari PR1MA brochure. Image Unavailable, Please Login
But the colors are reversed - The spider looks better On the Speciale the air extractor detracts from the stripe
Haven't read the entire thread... do the winglets in front of the rear wheels have a stated function? Overall I like it. Not a fan of the winglets... not a fan of the stripe. The rest... spectacular.
Rest assured that you are in the vast minority on this one. Just goes to show you how truly subjective looks are.
The fact that the first Ferrari in years that's relatively free of staying gimmicks is disappointing to some worrys me.
