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  1. miurasv

    miurasv F1 World Champ

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  2. miurasv

    miurasv F1 World Champ

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    #2 miurasv, Sep 9, 2013
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    1978 308 GTS hammered at £20,000.

    2001 360 Modena F1 hammered at £31,000.

    2005 612 Scaglietti F1 with 100 miles only hammered at £70,000.

    2006 599 GTB Fiorano F1 hammered at £75,000.

    2006 F430 Spider hammered at £65,000.

    1998 456M GT with 6000km hammered at £45,000.

    1984 Mondial QV hammered at £12,500.

    1998 355 Spider F1 hammered at £32,500.

    1991 Testarossa hammered at £35,000.

    2000 550 Maranello hammered at £45,000.

    1998 355 Spider F1 hammered at £32,500.

    1990 F40 hammered at £270,000.

    1973 RHD Porsche 911 Carrera 2.7 RS Touring hammered at £285,000.

    1957 Aston Martin DB2/3 MK111 hammered at £165,000.

    1967 Iso Grifo hammered at £140,000.

    1963 250 GTE 2+2 Series 3 hammered at £120,000.

    1966 330 GTC hammered at £360,000.

    1964 330 GT 2+2 S1 hammered at £85,000.

    1964 250 GT/L Lusso hammered at £730,000.

    1971 Dino 246 GT NOT SOLD at £150,000.

    2004 575 GTC NOT SOLD at £230,000.

    1970 Alfa Romeo Tipo 33/3 hammered at £350,000.

    1967 275 GTB/4 hammered at £1.470,000.

    1965 Porsche 904/6 Carrera GTS hammered at £1,100,000.

    275 GTB/C Long Nose 09027 NOT SOLD at £2,100,000.
     
  3. 275GTBSaran

    275GTBSaran Formula Junior

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    Finally the Lusso is getting the respect it deserves. One of the most beautiful Ferraris of the 1960s for sure. Maybe not the greatest to drive but certainly among the most elegant and beautiful cars by Pininfarina...!
     
  4. -K1-

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    What about the Group 4 GTB?
     
  5. tomgt

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    Gtb/c unsold
     
  6. miurasv

    miurasv F1 World Champ

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    #6 miurasv, Sep 9, 2013
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    1957 Maserati 250S hammered at £1,900,000.

    1955 Jaguar D Type Long Nose NOT SOLD at £4,000,000.

    1960 Maserati Tipo 61 Birdcage NOT SOLD at £1,600,000.

    1970 Chevron B16 hammered at £240,000.

    1971 Chevron B19 hammered at £155,000.

    1975 Alfa Romeo Tipo 33 TT 12 hammered at £300,000.

    1977 308 GTB Corsa hammered at £77,500.
     
  7. amenasce

    amenasce Three Time F1 World Champ
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    575 GTC not sold at 230k..wow..that car is really not loved.
     
  8. merstheman

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    Can't believe the D Type didn't sell.
     
  9. merstheman

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    Did the 904 sell?
     
  10. 275GTBSaran

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    yes. I think GBP 1.1m hammer
     
  11. amenasce

    amenasce Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Estimates for the collection were pretty high IMO.
     
  12. 275GTBSaran

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    Maybe this is the start of something? Important cars not selling! Could this signal a change in the classic car market? Thats the $64m question ;)
     
  13. 275GTBSaran

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    Maybe this is the start of something? Important cars not selling! Could this signal a change in the classic car market? Thats the $64m question ;)
     
  14. Napolis

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    The tree has stopped growing to The Sky.
     
  15. 275GTBSaran

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    Apparantly it has. To the disappointment of many I can imagine...
     
  16. wbaeumer

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    In my opinion it was the wrong place/auction to sell the Laidlaw-cars. The Goodwood sale next weekend would have been a better place.
     
  17. mx906

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    Might there be issues specific to the Birdcage, GTB/C and D-Type that explain why they were not sold? Maybe the reserves were too high relative to their originality? In this context, it was interesting to see Birdcage # 2461 sell at RM Monterey for 1.9. No one seemed too shocked about that. Buyers are more educated than ever, which has to be a good thing. It would be interesting to see Birdcage # 2455, for example, sell at auction.

    Jerry
     
  18. merstheman

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    Maybe, but it may signal that the cars are no longer trumping the location for the auctions, which MIGHT mean the beginning of a downward trend. In times of hysteria, it doesn't matter as much where you hold the auction. Now people might be thinking twice about it.

    I'm probably wrong, though, and one isolated event a trend does not make.


    Glad to hear the 904 sold, that was an amazing car. My favorite in all the collection.
     
  19. merstheman

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    I think the D-Type's history was pretty spotless. Not sure about the Birdcage. The GTB/C had issues, as discussed here previously. The 904 had a great history, too. The 250S which also sold was a great car too, no issues I think.
     
  20. Marcel Massini

    Marcel Massini Two Time F1 World Champ
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    I personally attended the entire RM auction tonite in London.
    The issue is that there were ZERO real bidders on the 275 GTB/C.
    The reserve is GBP£ 2.3 M.
    A friend of mine was the high bidder on the D-type Jag but he stopped at £ 4 M. The lower estimate is £ 5.5 M. Quite a bit more.
    Consignor Lord Irvine Laidlaw is a multi billionaire and doesn't really need the money.
    Several cars were estimated way too high.
    It appears, that Laidlaw did purchase the 275 GTB/4.

    Marcel Massini
     
  21. Marcel Massini

    Marcel Massini Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Bonhams is at Goodwood, RM is not.

    Marcel Massini
     
  22. flat-12

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    F40 sold for 270.000 GBP - that's only short over 300.000 Euro!
    Anything wrong about the car? Friend of mine didn't look at this car in detail but he said it was looking quite nice - so nothing really negative about this F40 he could recognise. Some more information about this car would be great. What's the reason for this low price? Is it just a more realistic price or was this auction the wrong marketplace - most cars offered are about 400.000 Euro or even more ... and some of these cars offered by different dealer in Europe (that's the market I'm most interseted in) and also some cars in the USA didn't sell the last couple of months. That would be a big crack in pricing!
     
  23. Marcel Massini

    Marcel Massini Two Time F1 World Champ
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    First owner and passenger reportedly killed, car rebuilt, second owner crashed and killed as well, car rebuilt again, then the car caught fire and later on it was reported stolen in Geneva, Switzerland.
    It doesn't get much worse. At least it was never handgrenaded.........
    Gentlemen, do your homework!

    Marcel Massini
     
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  24. TurboTerrificNo9

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    Supposedly accident damage and little in the way of service history making mileage difficult to verify.
     
  25. Marcel Massini

    Marcel Massini Two Time F1 World Champ
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    See post 23.

    Marcel Massini
     

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