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  1. ForzaV12

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    Lee,

    If the valves are still in adjustment(low miles) there wouldn't be too much of a "clatter", although you can always hear the difference between solids and hydraulics. Factory did offer power steering, no Hurst shifter(although a common addition back in the day). The mono leaf(monochromatic refers to "one color") spring is lighter although my F41 factory spring works pretty good.
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  2. leead1

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    Steve thank you for the information. To your point I do not put much miles on it, mainly because I have alot to chose from.

    I did pick up the 65 vette this moring. I did not hear any tappet noise. What I should have done is get near the motor to get a better chance of hearing them. Even at idle I did not hear anything.

    I do remember the mecahnic telling me it had rotary not sure he said tappets or something else. He was talking about valve activation and how it was not syock and added to get more power.

    Oh for the past post on valve rev limits it is 5500 max plus/minus on my 65 Vette.

    best

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  3. ForzaV12

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    You know, Lee, I'll bet your mechanic was informing you that you had roller lifters-these can be found on both solid and hydraulic cams. I'll bet yours are hydraulic.
     
  4. leead1

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    Steve roller lifters sound like what he said. It is coming back to me in part.

    He said my rods broke and engine failed because who ever did the hop up on this car used 427 roller-lifters not 327 lifters and the 427 lifter are to big for the 327 engine. This caused me to need an engine repair. This happened less than two miles from where I bought it. I think the dealer knew something was wrong with the car but did not tell me.

    Does your hydraulic cam thought work for a 327/465hp car with a cam added to boast the power to 490hp? This '65 427/490 moddified vette is as quick as my '66 427/ 390 vette I had during that time. So the power was there.

    Best
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  6. ForzaV12

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    Possibly could have caused a pushrod failure, unlikely to cause connecting rod damage. Improper lifters/lash/etc will cause valvetrain distress and failure(and usually a poor running engine). Hydraulic roller cams have been used in engines that make very good power, so entirely possible. I removed the matching number engine from my 340hp 67 Corvette and bagged it for safekeeping. I obtained another correct 327 Corvette motor and had it stroked and modded. It ran nearly 500HP on the dyno using a hydraulic roller cam,ported alloy heads, extrude honed manifolds, 3" side exhaust, etc. It looks almost factory stock under the hood but has much greater power-revs instantly.
     
  7. Tenney

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    A larger diameter big block push rod could have been chewed-up/come apart in a small block guide plate?
     
  8. Tenney

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    Going back a bit, but recall setting solids w/the motor off - and having a spare set of valve covers w/an open top for hydraulics to keep the oil from flying around - though, didn't have to set those too much - mostly just at install or a repair.
     
  9. leead1

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    Yes and to make things easy I would pull some or all of the dpark plugs to get the valve tappet at rest. If I remember it was always done with a cold motor as per spec.

    I remember using a feeler gauge but cannot remember the setting.
     
  10. of2worlds

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    ON the big block I think the feeler gauge was 24 and 28 thou intake and exhaust.
    Had to set the valve clearance on the 1970 1/2 Camaro small block Z28 a few times to. The dealer built me a new motor on warranty when the tufftriding finish failed on the crankshaft. One of the dealership mechanics was a drag racer and he knew how to build strong small block Chevy motors! Worked perfect after that.
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    A buddy of mine just said he was offered one of the first 70 production vehicles at invoice. Does that sound possible? If so, when would that delivery be?
     
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    John, are you sure it was not MSRP, and a bit of confusion?
     
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    Maybe the dealer thinks Laguna Blue with a stick shift will be a 'tough' sell.
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    I can find out for sure later on today. He was offered it yesterday and is probably just looking to flip it. When flipping wouldn't he have to sell it for more than his cost plus the amount of taxes he originally paid?
     
  16. leead1

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    I ordered mine as msrp. my dealer is a great guy and never seels over list.

    I hope Laguna blue is a tough sell that is the color I ordered with a stick shift.

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    So far some form of red (there are 2), some form of gray/silver (again 2 to choose from) are 1/2.

    Then white, then blue then black followed by yellow and finally green.

    I think white is the "new black".

    They made all the special 500 launch editions in Laguna Blue. I don't think blue is going to be a tough sell or they wouldn't have done it.
     
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    Historically looking at 2011 and 2012 Corvette sales the various shades of blue like 'Supersonic' and 'Carlisle' account for between only 5% and 10% of Corvette sales. Not big numbers. The automatic transmission accounts for 65% of sales even with models like the Z06 and ZR1 only being available with a stick shift. ZR1 sales were very soft in 2012 with a little over 400 of that model sold for the year.
    The early build 2014 Laguna Blue (all stick shift) Corvettes go against the trend of those numbers. The top selling Corvette dealers got these early blue Corvettes based on their sales record but had no say in the color or options. Only the first blue Corvette was built with an automatic transmission.
    I personally like the Laguna Blue and how it accentuates the new exterior design details so clearly. Something that can't be said about the popular all black Corvettes...
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  20. Edward 96GTS

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    do all cars fly at the hump in post 368? would more downforce solve that problem?
     
  21. Napolis

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    Yes.

    No.
     
  22. leead1

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    CH it does look good. I think I have to walk away from the computer and giggle like a little kid or an old kid :)

    Thank you for posting. I really apreciate it.

    Best

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  23. rdefabri

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    I own a Series 1 (1966) E-Type and my brother owns my father's 1961 Corvette. I know that Corvette so well as I worked on it and drove it throughout my youth.

    There is no comparison in terms of handling. The E-Type is a ballerina, the Corvette is a truck (a live axle with leaf springs and drums all around will do that to you). I walk from my brother's car if it gets remotely twisty. He'll beat me straight line (2x4bbl, 270HP motor), but not by much. E-Type is a far better driving car IMHO.

    You own a 1967, which has an IRS 4-wheel disc brakes. Big difference from a 1961 Corvette.

    I agree - great motors, no doubt.

    Again, you have a mid-years Corvette, I believe Lee said he owned a 53 or 54 Corvette...which drives like a bus (see my previous point). I know Lee owns a mid-year 'Vette as well, so not sure if he was speaking to that.

    Still, a mid-year Vette weighs ~3,400 lbs, a comparable E-Type is ~2,800 - that's 600 pounds lighter...a lot of weight, which definitely impacts driveability...thankfully the Corvettes have way more power.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge Corvette fan - especially the C2. It's definitely a world-class sportscar, and it's the car I wanted before I purchased the E-Type.
     
  24. rdefabri

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    Was always more of a Chevy guy, but the Cammer is a bad ass motor...

    I like it in this configuration:

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPJ_B10iy4k]Ford 427 SOHC Engine in action!! - YouTube[/ame]
     
  25. TheMayor

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