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458 Speciale Revealed

Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by robertop, Aug 20, 2013.

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  1. NürScud

    NürScud F1 Veteran

    Nov 3, 2012
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    Not sure for this. Watch carefully the rear bootlid that is going a little bit ''up'', almost like a ''ducktail''...
     
  2. skinguy23

    skinguy23 Formula Junior

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    Maybe the non sport seats will be a little more comfortable. I'm in!


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  3. Garretto

    Garretto F1 Veteran

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    Please share your knowledge of the optional sport seat option if you have any. You misunderstood me but then again maybe I misunderstood the optional seat thing. I don't think by optionals they mean true racing seats (as in racecars) but another level of a sporty street seat, which I would find annoying as I believe the sportier seats should come as standard in such a model. So if optionals are true racing seats, then that's fine for hardcore track users, but I highly doubt it!

    In similar fashion, there are certain components which in this model I think should come as standard, that is, the sportiest and lightest components (wheels, tires, mirrors...) except for those truly track-racing oriented (if any). So simply don't sell me the sportiest version available and then tell me that the sportiest equipment is an option - should be standard.
     
  4. bobbyd

    bobbyd Formula Junior

    Nov 17, 2003
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    I agree the standard 458 "race seats" and things of that ilk should be standard on a car like the "Speciale" - it will leave a bad taste in the mouth's of potential buyers if most of the desirable stuff ends up as extra cost options. IMO Ferrari is getting greedy with this trend...
     
  5. Noblesse Oblige

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    One question I have is whether the claimed weight reduction reflected in the dry weight figure applies to the zero-option car (it should, or else we are being played). If it is then any optional carbon would save additional weight.
     
  6. Noblesse Oblige

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  7. Traveller

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    100% not Ferro and only close to Silverstone but it looks utterly amazing. Possibly a new colour but unlikely?
     
  8. freshmeat

    freshmeat F1 Veteran

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    I call bullocks on that...if only a few hundred, why the need to do a 3-year production run?
     
  9. freshmeat

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    Well, don't feel like you're getting played because on paper, even w/o these optional carbon bits, the Specialé is 430lbs lighter than the base 458 (2,844lb vs 3,274lb). And compare that to the 430 Scuderia's weight of 2,975lb.

    It's light!
     
  10. TomTom77

    TomTom77 Formula Junior

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    To answer your questions:
    - CF engine cover is listed separately 5.7k EUR. That's, together with the wheel hubs, the only CF on the options list, actually.
    - both the N.A.R.T. as well as the "Racing Stripe Grigio Corsa / Nero" stripe are listed and priced at 9k EUR
    - interior foot wells can be done in alcantara or leather, no mention (here) on CF

    Hope that helps...
    Tom.
     
  11. arizonaitalian

    arizonaitalian Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Apples to apples? (Same fluids?)

    Call me very skeptical.
     
  12. Challenge64

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    #962 Challenge64, Sep 12, 2013
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    Well one thing is for sure. The vast majority of the 458 Speciale owners in the U.S. will never get to experience the full potential of the aerodynamics of the car.

    In the meantime - Dear Ferrari, please add some options. They won't add any performance value to the car and do nothing but give me a bigger bill to pay. Here is my wish list. The 2013 Ferrari 458 GT3 mirrors and wheels. Thank you.
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  13. scuderia09

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    Is the dark colour on racing stripe is it not carbon fiber look or is it gray any other option colour combo available on the Speciale
     
  14. tekaefixe

    tekaefixe Formula 3

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    Can someone put the full options list on the speciale please?

    Thanks a lot ;)
     
  15. HK boy

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    From Ferrari's official specifications for U.S. version:

    Dry weight:

    Italia coupe: 1380 kg (3042 lbs)
    Speciale: 1290 kg (2844 lbs)

    The weight reduction is 198 lbs.

    The 3274 lbs you had for the base 458 is the curb weight, the fluids weigh 232 lbs.
     
  16. freshmeat

    freshmeat F1 Veteran

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    doh...wait, the spider weighs 3,153 lbs with fluids then?

    I remember reading recently the curb weight for the spider is 3,400...that can't be right?
     
  17. HK boy

    HK boy Formula Junior

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    Correct, the spider is 3153 lbs dry, curb weight is 3384 lbs.
     
  18. HK boy

    HK boy Formula Junior

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    I just noticed the claimed dry weight of the Italia coupe listed on Ferrari.com is with forged wheels and racing seats. That means any weight Ferrari claim could very well be with options.

    But realistically, wheels and seats are the 2 only meaningful weight saver, all other CF options are all cosmetic trim pieces that really don't save any weight.


    Dry weight: 3042 lbs (1380 kg)*

    Note
    *With forged wheels and Racing seats
     
  19. SlowV8

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    Try selling a 16M. Ferrari claimed 499 made more like 999. They are for sale everywhere. They aren't in high demand at all.
     
  20. Noblesse Oblige

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    I think that next in line in weight reduction after seats and wheels are C/F air boxes. (But I love the red aluminum ones).
     
  21. RC33

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    During the presentation, I saw a large under tray that covers a large portion of the surface area of the Speciale that is made in Carbon fibre. I think this together with the interior carbon doors accounts for a significant portion of the weight reduction as well.
     
  22. ferr9000

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    Someone has the options list or some of them for the 458S? I will really aprecciate that.
     
  23. AZ-Giallo

    AZ-Giallo Formula Junior

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    I was hoping for brawny fenders from the GT3. Similar to the way they did the 288GTO - I LOVE THAT CAR!


     
  24. TheMayor

    TheMayor Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    My god the 458 is already wide enough! Any more and it will be like a Mac truck trying to park.
     
  25. Afonsolaw

    Afonsolaw Formula 3

    Sep 11, 2011
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    I was hoping for some side air ducts
     

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