Ferrari LaFerrari vs Mclaren P1 vs Porsche 918

Well, then at least we saw them first of the 918. And 960 is still an idea, not a reality, until we begin see it testing.

 

Yeah I happen to like the interior of the Ferrari VERY much as well! The P1 looks like the stripped version of a 12C.

I also beg to differ that a Ring time is not important as it is a circuit that very well represents public roads in which these cars are to be operated. We know that almost none of these cars will be used frequently on some super smooth track as they are just to expensive fragile and unsafe. If you want to go fast on track buy a Cup or Challenge car that has all safety equipment and is much more fun to drive at racing speeds. If you want to go faster still buy a spec prototype like a Radical or Dallara.

 

As far as I know apart from a few switches, LaFerrari doesn't share anything in its interior with the rest of the range, especially design wise!

 

Well, production didn't keep Ferrari from keep developing. A '92 F40 is a better car than a '88 car, no?

 

Debatable . I have an f40 , early sliding windows car . I would never swap it for a cat and adjust car ( later ) .

Very different cars too , this is a built of 375 all done in a year . The f40 from another time and built over many years but I do get your point .

 

The F40 changes dont really affect performance. But Mclaren already launched a car to have it upgraded later on so why not. Not ideal but owners are pleased..

 

I sat in and drove the 918 in production form. However I did not race it or take it to a track.

So yes I have 1st hand experience with the vehicle.

Did not drive the LaFerrari.

Sat in but did not drive the P1. (Own a MP4)

 

I wouldn't be too pleased if I were to receive one out of the first batch if I already know later cars will out-perform it.

 

Me neither but it seems the 12C owners who go their cars updated post delivery are very happy with it. It's not the ideal way to go about launching a supercar but if they are delivering the first customer cars this month and do upgrade the P1 later this year, id rather have my car sent back and upgraded than not at all.

 

Hmm... I struggle to understand your opinions of the P1. People would pay top dollar to own a race version of the F1 even though they probably will never drive it hard. They will also pay top dollar for the old striped down f40. So, I am not buying the whole it looks bland on the inside bit. The car is simply not for you gentlemen. This car is for hard core race fans who wants to be able to have real raving performance and still be able to drive it everywhere. I believe that if we look at this car as a race car first and then a hyper car, then we'll start to see where the value of this car lies. I do agree though that in order for this to work, it has to destroy all other times and be as exiting and as fun as a pure race car to succeed.

 

Andrew

I was contacted today to drive all three for a Well Known Magazine to see which one gets the most Babes.

As I'm married I passed and thought of you but then realized you are too.

Who should I tell them to ask?

 

Each of the early Veyron's were considered developmental cars; and they made incremental upgrades in small generations. Why wouldn't the P1 be the same?

 

fun idea

 

you have a point, but they Veyron should also be 'just' the Veyron. I am not into all those Dubai-aimed 'special edition' types. It really devalues the Veyron as the ultimate supercar.

 

I am married too. But I am willing to lie about it if it gets me a drive in these cars.

 

You need to compare the car to the other 2. It's a different world, today, and things like interiors in super cars matter - especially since the P1 faces an issue if we go by what you are saying: If it's supposed to be a "stripped down supercar for hardcore race fans" than it's fine for it to have that interior but it's being beaten by the comparatively luxury-filled 918, and that's embarrassing.

People paying top dollar for F1's and F40's back in the day did so because they never claimed to be more than what they were: pure drivers' cars. That's not what Ferrari and McLaren claim today. These days the cars are being called halo cars, and the examples of the best the manufacturers have to offer, and though that may not include downright luxury, it definitely includes comfort, technology and exclusivity.

Interestingly Porsche's claims of what the 918 represents to the brand are very similar (given the proportions) to what they claimed the 959 represented, back in the day: the ultimate example of Porsche engineering. And also, given the relative differences brought about by circa 25 years of evolution, the 918 managed to achieve even more as a road car than the 959 did. That is really impressive.

 

Me me me!

 

We can still do it, you know..for science and mankind.

 

The P1 is suppose to be the best drivers car ever. That means the interior has to look and feel like a race car and still have enough comfort to use everyday. The way it drives needs to be very accurate and you must be able to feel everything the car is doing through you hand, through your feet and you ears. It has to excite you. When you sit in it it has to feel and look like this thing means some serious business. I bet good money that the porsche may go like stink and feel fast because it is, but I bet that hard core porsche fans who want to have that raw driving experience that they are used to in the 911 gt3s and porsches of old will be some what let down. I feel like in some ways it is going to feel like the nissan GTR because of the all wheel steering and especially the energy recovery from the brakes. I don't care how well they calibrated it. Some people also don't want to be surrounded by "luxury" when driving on the track having some fun. It takes away from the entire experience a bit. Just my thoughts anyway. I'm just saying, the P1 is going to continue being bashed until the owners and journalist get behind the wheel and drive it themselves. Something tells me they might be smiling a little bit more. I predict you will hear a lot of stuff along the lines of this:

Laferrari: Freaking fast and fun to drive. Not as fast and focused as the P1 but still, just as fun.

Porsche: Different beast. For those who want crazy speed but don't necessarily care to much about having that raw racing feeling.

P1: FAST. Car that literally can transform into a race car and into a sports car that both rides like a rolls and feels like a gt monster at the flick of a switch. The more hardcore of the two.

...IMHO of course

 

Great Post, until all three (3) Production Cars run against one another, it will be very hard to determine the rest. As far as what some have wrote here who have driven the 918 and P1, all respect to you, but to have a unbiased test with all 3 cars together will be the determination. Regardless, IMHO it is fantastic that these 3 cars are being produced anyway.

 

+10

 

I hear what you are saying but unlike with the GT3 RS, I never read Porsche saying the 918 is supposed to be a track focused race car for the road. Not like McLaren says the P1 is. And that's all fine as far as driving dynamics is concerned but McLaren loses a lot of face when the 918 which is an engineering tour de force but a vastly more road-car-like car can go round the Nurburgring 8 seconds faster than their flagship "race car for the road". And that the P1 can't even break 7 mins (for now). People who own 918's can buy GT3's to have fun round a track. The LaFerrari, being a Ferrari, will always elicit a different opinion/view. Plus it looks promisingly fast. The P1 is stuck somewhere in the middle. At almost $1 million, that's a bad place for it to be. But all this is considering the fact that a prospective buyer will only choose 1 of 3, when some can afford to get all 3....