Swapping F1 for 6spd manual, is it possible? This guy on Lambo-talk pull it off

This guy on Lambo-Talk converted E-gear to manual.

http://www.**********************/vbforum/f47/e-gear-convert-manual-21995/

Anyone done something similar on F430?

 

given you name is "6spd", my guess is this is a theoretical question. If it were me, I'd trade the F1 in for 6spd, it's likely to be less expensive.
now if it were the Scud and CS, I guess it's doable, just find a donor transmission.
btw, link is not workable.

 

Unfortunately, the link to other forum is not allowed on this forum it seems.

I used to have 6spd manual 360, hope there is a 6spd F430 in my future.

 

Damn, I wanna go to F1 from manual ...

 

Yes you can 360TREV on these forums has done so.

 

Eddie- We had another owner on the other forum do it, too. He used a combination of new and used parts, including two new Motronic ECUs for three pedal cars, and the total cost was about $5500 before selling any of the F1 parts. Also needed would be the pedal assembly, gearshift assembly and shifter cables, clutch hydraulics and linkage, steering wheel surround, and throw-out bearing. Probably missed a couple, but those are the main components.

 

This forum is so paranoid, not allowed to talk about other forums, banned keywords... LOL

 

...we are not suppose to even talk about, talking about other forums.

The first rule of FChat, is that you do not talk about other forums.
The second rule of FChat, is that you do not talk about other forums.
The third rule of FChat, threads will go on as long as they have to.

...ok, taken this one a little too far ;0

 

F-T? Never heard of that one! Must check it out!

 

+1. LOL! And debates about whether K&N filters are actually better are banned.

 

Odds on this thread turning into manual vs. f1 debate, 1/3
Odds someone will note that a 6 speed applies to both transmissions, 1/1
Odds someone will say the words "Anything is possible, with unlimited funds", 1/1
Odds that someone will say rosso corsa on tan is the best color combo, 1/10
Odds on this thread getting 10,000 views, 1/2
Estimated number of times 360Trev will get quoted, 6

 

Hahaha classic, Nathan you forgot the odds on someone complaining that the OP didnt use "search" - where are they currently ?

 

ahhh, fail on my part... of course!

 

Ohh Ohh... I got one... "Can I convert from 6 speed to F1 and keep my clutch pedal?"

 

I converted my 2003 360 Spider F1 to 6 sp manual early
this year, at the time I needed to change the clutch.
It was not hard, all standard Ferrari parts just bolt on
with no modifications. The trick is in some of the details.
The gearbox and clutch is identical in F1 and manual,
and the different operating mechanisms are all external.

I carefully looked at the parts diagrams and part numbers and
it is no surprise that pretty well all the 360 and 430 part numbers for
the clutch and gearbox system are identical. (that applies
to much of the rest of the 360 and 430 also). The 430 really is
not a new car, but an upgraded version of the 360 in most ways.

Gearstick and cables just bolt in under the console. New pedal box
just bolts in, or can just add a clutch pedal to the F1 pedal box
by removing a spacer on the pedal shaft.

The F1 actuator/selector system bolted on to the right side of the gearbox
is removed and replaced with a manual actuator which connects the
2 gear stick cables to the gearbox.

Clutch master cylinder just bolts in, and the hydraulic line back to the gearbox can
be fitted with a bit of a fiddle.

Now the detail. The F1 system uses a type of Dextron hydraulic fluid,
while manual uses brake fluid. The thrust bearing assembly needs all
seals changed to new ones. Then at the end, someone with an SD2
needs to reprogram the ECU's so it does not look for an F1 ECU input.
In other words, reprogram as a manual.
Unless this is done, the dash will show a gearbox error and the engine
won't even start.

That is it in a nutshell. Before I did it many people said it was too hard
and just sell your F1 and buy a manual. I had most the parts from before,
my car had only done 15000 km, I had personalized it and knew it's
history from almost new. I did all trim and fitted the new bits myself.
I let the professionals fit the new clutch assembly and connect everything.

I feel that as good as the F1 system is, with a manual you have
total control of the car. Taking off from lights, with F1 there is always
a delay till the car moves off. And it is so much more fun driving
the manual.

Anyone want to buy my perfectly functional F1 bits?

 

Tim...very good info I may consider this for the future. With regards to the F1 left over bits what do you have for sale?

 

Well done Tim, you brought us all back on topic AND with a most useful and informative post.

Nice bit of work there.

 

Tim,

I may be interested as I'm lazy now and would like to go to F1. This is a big change for me as i never thought i would want a F1.

I wonder how much trouble that would be ?

 

+1
Like!

Keep up the good work !

 

I have the complete F1 actuator assembly including pump, all hoses, all wires.
Basically the complete assembly as I unbolted it from the gearbox, plus
everything that it was connected to as I removed it from the body work.
All of it is still connected together.

I'll probably post the items on ebay once I get around to it. But if any one is interested?
These items are extremely expensive if bought new.

 

Do you have the actuator sensors that are mounted straight on the arm?

Would you be interested in selling those separately?

Thank you.

 

I might be wrong but I think 360TREV converted a manual 360 to a manual CS and then some! Wonderful detailed conversion.

 

Just because you can do something doesn't mean that you should. I drive a manual 360 but if I had an F-1 and wanted a manual the last thing I'd do is swap components. Not only because it's a PITA and not inexpensive, but I'd worry most about the resale value. I just can't ever conceive of purchasing a 360 converted from F-1 to manual unless the seller was willing to almost give it away. It's a great car, but it isn't rare by any means. It seems to me that trading cars would be pretty easy and then you wouldn't have to worry about resale value in the future. Those are my two cents.