David Piper restores the Talacrest P4

I think Toolfan's friend offered $15 million and it was turned down? Also from memory, so I will have to check the thread, Terra knows of an offer higher than that which was also turned down.

 

Well put. tongascrew

 

If there is someone out there who really wants his signature on the car the time is now to make the deal. Later there may be several someones and anything could happen. This is a very large crap shoot. Act now and the knitty gritty details can still be locked up. IF I were that someone this I would do now. What really do you have to lose except $s which you have truckloads. If no deal can be made now word can be leaked which could well eliminate some future bidders. Then our someone can have another go. tongascrew

 

NO........Nineteen hundred & ninety nine......

 

I stand corrected.

 

Sorry if i missed it, but what is happening to the original body? I (hope) assume it will be included in the sale?

 

Come on we have to get to 2000.

 

If you mean the Can Am body then yes it is, at the full asking price. However, it could be used as a negotiating point which is just a guess and that's just me speculating. Only John Collins at Talacrest could confirm that.

 

That's good; I am glad.

 

Nice you stated the CanAm body as being original. I like that!

 

Did the car sell ?

 

0858 is not being sold by auction, if that's what you were thinking, but by UK Classic Ferrari dealer, Talacrest. AFAIK it is still for sale. See here: Ferrari 330 P4*-*For Sale At Talacrest

 

Posted on Talacrest's FB page today. Pics taken at the paint shop yesterday.
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15 pictures taken from Talacrest's FB page today. Engine and gearbox in. It's really coming together now....
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Steve, thanks for the reminder to take a fresh look at Talacrest's page on the car. I had forgotten that in its Can-Am configuration Ferrari had provided the driver with front-mounted barrels from a pair of 'French 75s', the infamous WW I guns. P.S. we're on page 100 with only ten to go to two thousand posts.

 

From the beginning with Talacrest the CanAm body was intended to remain with the restored car when resto was completed. If both are shown together this will be very impressive. tongascrew

 

No offense to all naysayers, but.....you cant argue with the result. This just looks a trillion times better (though I personally prefer the Berlinetta version) than the CanAm body and this is how 0858 should be presented and preserved IMHO. It makes the CanAM car look what it was to all accounts....a hastily done hack job on one of the most beautiful racers ever created.

 

You can't argue with the results of improperly replicated replica parts such as this "expansion/header" tank that was really a very clever extra water tank that could dump extra water (note A "open"/C "closed" valve and lovely handle to operate it on an original P4 that these guys missed) into the system before water was allowed to be "added" that skirted Le Mans rules on the real P4 engine header tanks? I thought the guys doing this are the world's foremost P4 experts??

Not to mention that they got the shape wrong as well.
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It looks wrong, to me. Slightly off. The nose especially. It may have to do with the angle the pictures were taken in.

 

I am a big naysayer, so probably biased, but this doesn't look good at all.

 

If you're going to compare and judge it against another car, it's only fair that it should at least be against/next to an original, authentic and correct P4, 0856.
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Someone has alerted me to your laughable post.

The photo I posted and the ones you posted are of the same original P4 0856. In the angle I posted you can clearly see the correct header tank on 0856. On the ones you posted because of the angle you can't see the correct construction with the proper valve but you can make out the A C markings and the top of the lovely valve handle.

Back on ignore.

Once again should anyone feel anything you post is worth responding to let me know.

 

Well, as most of us here are not psychic your original post should have been clear and stated that it was 0856. Good pic. Perhaps I could be forgiven for thinking that a pic you posted was of your car. I don't think I've seen you post a picture of anyone elses car before.

 

What part of YOUR laughable statement are you unable to understand when my post and the photo of 0856 that accompanied it clearly did?

Originally Posted by Napolis View Post
You can't argue with the results of improperly replicated replica parts such as this "expansion/header" tank that was really a very clever extra water tank that could dump extra water (note A "open"/C "closed" valve and lovely handle to operate it on an original P4 that these guys missed) into the system before water was allowed to be "added" that skirted Le Mans rules on the real P4 engine header tanks? I thought the guys doing this are the world's foremost P4 experts??

Not to mention that they got the shape wrong as well.

You:

"If you're going to compare and judge it against another car, it's only fair that it should at least be against/next to an original, authentic and correct P4, 0856."
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Never say this where certain people can read it unless you are prepared as David Stockman was to be taken out to the woodshed. I have on numerous occasions and have lived quite happily.My opinion is that there are two approaches to any restoration of a car with a significant racing record.The car is prepared eather for competitive showing or for "competition use" as stated in the Talacrest publication. When you see what the pro detailers do to prepare a car for competitive showing and go thru amongst other things handfuls of Q tips any car prepared for track "competition use" would have a different approach to its preparation.There are already complaints about certain parts of the Talacrest car.I will let the Talacrest people answer for these. But if any of these complaints have to do with the safety of the car on the race track this has to be a facter. The issue of the windshield has come up and from what I can tell from the pictures the Talacrest car's windshield does not have the correct curved section at the top. Ok, Lets let D P and the Talacrest people deal with this. If it is important to a prospective buyer I am sure a solution can be found. The same goes for any other perceived "imperfections". The main issue still is what any owner intends for the future of a car. Is it a show car or will it light up the race track and bring thrills and excitement to the fans. 0858 is an all out,no holds barred, fantastic looking and reasonably successful P4 racing machine. As I used to say "this is one man's opinion" to show it off in some form of reasonable anger. I suppose the big question is who will drive it. Trust me there are plenty of now retired successful and skilled racing drivers who would jump at the chance. tongascrew