New 2014 Stingray

Lee,

I enjoy my early 911s and appreciate the new ones. As to lasting forever? I'll take the new Corvette in a heartbeat over the 911. It isn't Chevrolet thats embroiled in a massive settlement/lawsuit due to blown engines. IMO, really sad that Porsche didn't make that entire issue right with their customers. The pricing has also gotten ridiculous-I haven't purchased a new Porsche in a while, so I went online and priced a new Boxster with the options I wanted-essentially 100K was the result-no thanks.

 

Actually I think the biggest engine-related litigation with Porsche was recently settled with info here:

IMS Porsche Settlement Class Action Lawsuit Information Center | IMS Porsche Settlement

It had to do with intermediate shafts.

I have always wanted a 911, but every time I get serious I note 2 things. First, the styling is pretty conservative and very derivative of the early bug-like cars that I never warmed to. Second, the price of what I'd really want (turbo or GT2/3) is not that far from a true exotic. My MP4-12C is not all that much mroe expensive than a new Turbo S. My Z06 is pretty damn close in performance to the 997 Turbo and significantly lighter.

So when the perfomrance C7 variants come out, I bet I end up with one of those rather than a 911.

 

Keith, you never had a 911?!?!?

you're missing out. buy a 997 Cup car next summer after all the pro teams have switched to the 991

 

I have had a Cup car, just not a street car. My ardor faded due to $2200 a set Michelin slicks that lost pace after 4 heat cycles. To run up front in any competitive class driving Cup cars is a $5K+ per weekend tire budget.

If you just want to go fast on track, a Radical is much faster and cheaper to operate. So if I just want to go stupid fast, I drive the SR8. If I want to race, I drive the 2 big SCCA classes, SRF and SM. Large, competitive fields where a win means a great deal, and not that you have the most $ to "prep" your car.

My wife has a 997 Turbo - in fact one of the last 6-speed cars and I love it. But it is not really any quicker than my c6 Z06 and definitely not worth the price delta to me. I just coudl not bring myslef to pop about $100K extra for the 911 over the Vette. $100K is a lot of race budget for my classes.

 

I think the Z06 is more the sports car than the ZR1. It is lighter and I think the 7000 rpm NA engine sounds better than the supercharged ZR1 that has 500 fewer rpms to redline. The Z06 actually ran faster laps on some tracks.

Yahoo!

Do you think your new 427 C6 sounds better than your prior ZR1 at full song?

In comparison to the 997 911 Turbo, the Z06 is lighter, gets to 60 mph in first gear in the stoplight drag test, and IMO sounds and looks better. Sure there are tons of vettes and they are cheaper, but I just prefer the looks of the vette.

In fact, a big reason I am not interested in the regular C7 is that I am confident it is not the performance car that the C6 Z06 is, and I am obsessive in that category. I will wait to see what kind of performance comes in a year or 2. I have high hopes.

 

Lee, I'm not positive, but I think they will build more Shelby's than the Boss. The Boss sounds amazing and handles very well. In my opinion, it has all the power it needs for the street.
I haven't driven your version of the Shelby, but the last one it was difficult to get the power down.

 

Motor trend tested the c7 and it lapped LAguna seca at the same time as the Ferrari f12 and much faster than the Porsche 911s.

 

It is actually heavier than a C6Z06 thanks to numerous weight adding luxuries, steel drive shaft to dampen out the 4 cyl mod vibrations, etc.....

Maybe at some point in the future, but 455/460 hp is the highest horsepower "base" Vette ever. 25 HP more than the 2008-13 LS3, 90 HP more than a base C5, for example.

Agreed......I'm thinking about getting my GT500 tuned to break the 700 hp mark. Doesn't take much! I had to put a built motor with twin turbos on my 91 LX 5.0 to get even close to that mark back in the day!

 

2016 Chevrolet Corvette Z07 Spy Photos ? News ? Car and Driver

 

I am really considering ordering the new Stingray....any idea when the Zr1 comes out? I think its great value for money and with a few mods the car will be a real beast....something to really enjoy.

I will use it for the Gumball next year, am 75% sold on it!

MJ

 

Yes, it has "active fuel management," GM speak for cylinder deactivation.

Yes they will. Prototypes have already been spotted....and the "Z06" or whatever it is called will have either a supercharged or twin turbo V8.

Corvette Z06 spied again... for the first time? - Autoblog

3300 lbs and a 12 flat at 117-119 mph is hardly a "dog"! Remember...this is a BASE car....and it makes as much torque below 4000 rpm as the old 7 liter Z06.

 

As well as an active exhaust rerouting scheme, so that the car does not sound like a Subaru when the cylinders are deactivated.

 

And a steel torque tube to damp the 4cyl vibrations......in addition to variable cam timing and direct fuel injection, which allows for an 11.5:1 CR. Low 12s in the quarter mile and 29 mpg highway.......

 

Can't wait to see the final version of that. Brakes look great at least like the ZR1.

 

I think they are going turbo on this car. The Callaway supercharger literally sticks out of a hole cut in the hood because there's no room under the bonnet anymore for the additional space needed.

 

Both Edelbrock, and Magnuson have low rise superchargers that fit under the clearance of the C6 ZR1 hood, and will clear a stock C6 hood. The "Heartbeat" magnuson blower also reduces weight compared to the unit that Callaway use by 11 lbs.

The C7 ZR1 may be turbocharged, but based on what I hear, I think that both the Z06, and ZR1 variants will be supercharged.

 

I think though that Callaway said the new hood is closer to the top of the head than the C6, so they had to do it that way.

Others may have a better solution but the engine isn't going any lower in the chassis, that's for sure.

 

Interesting Motor Trend article:

2014 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray Z51 vs. 2014 Ferrari F12 Berlinetta vs. 2013 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S - Motor Trend

Disappointing to see the C7 coupe outweigh a Carrera 4S. Convertible will be over 3500 lbs I am sure. Clearly the public values comfort over light weight.

 

http://m.youtube.com/channel/UCsAegdhiYLEoaFGuJFVrqFQ?sub_confirmation=1&desktop_uri=%2Fchannel%2FUCsAegdhiYLEoaFGuJFVrqFQ%3Fsub_confirmation%3D1

Reading your link to motor trend it almost sounds as if motor trend was a bit pissed at Ferrari for not giving a car to last months best drivers car....

Did anyone else sense the writers vengeance? Could have a small part as to its third place behind the vette and the 911..

I'm a vette fanatic for sure..on my third new one but come on...there is no way the awesome f12 gets third place and it was fastest on the track...

Paybacks a ***** from motor trend to Ferrari...IMO

Corvette got a pass because its a new car and Porsche ads in motor trend along with vw and Audi recently increased?

Kidding but really the f12 is amazing..

 

That f12 was insane and the sound was intoxicating..

Worlds best for sure...yet for 58 grand the c7 z51 with MRC and NPP is a hell of a fun way to go as well.

 

As a daily driver-- I do.

The Vette isn't really trying to be lightweight. It still has cast iron headers for heaven's sake.

It's trying to be a great daily driver, dependable, affordable 2 seat sports car. That's enough for most, including me.