and they where not the only ones....
Boy, Massa did suck big time today. Starts 5th, finish 10th, giving up important points to Mercedes. His team mate starts 8th, finish 4th, despite being held by Massa for a few laps and having the worse pit stop strategy (a mistake by Ferrari, they should have told Massa to f*** off and let Alonso pass).
My opinion of Massa since Ferrari decided to drop him [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWukihVp3fQ]Alien dog - "Animal Instinct". - YouTube[/ame]
I can only hope Massa is testing new equipment for 2014 during the race. Otherwise there is no point in keeping him in that seat for the remaining races.
Who's fault was that? Yet another race day f up by Phil........could use those points to beat MB.....why qualify well if your going to consistently shyt the bed on race day?
They should have fired him right now for not obeying team orders but unfortunately they need his points for the constructors championship and replacing him at this point of the season would not deliver results. It´s a no win situation for the team.
Since this is actually a SUPPORT thread for Felipe lol!!! Japanese GP: Fernando Alonso downplays Felipe Massa team orders row - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com --------------------------------- Japanese GP: Fernando Alonso downplays Felipe Massa team orders row By Jonathan Noble Sunday, October 13th 2013, 11:12 GMT Fernando Alonso insisted he had no problem with Felipe Massa appearing to ignore team orders in the Japanese Grand Prix. Massa was given the radio message "multi-function strategy A, now please" by race engineer Rob Smedley in the early stages of the Suzuka race. That was viewed as a clear order for Massa to give up his then-fifth position to Alonso as they moved to battle their way through the field. Massa did not move over though, and eventually Alonso had to fight his way through with an overtaking move down the start/finish straight on lap 20. Although Massa suggested after the race that he was not happy with the order, Alonso said that he was not upset by the actions of his Brazilian team-mate. "No. Not really," said Alonso, when asked if he was unhappy. "We cannot make a big thing about this. "We are racing and whatever we do today, we finished more or less in the same positions because we could not achieve anything more. "I don't know exactly what happened, but zero problems." Massa has made it clear since it was announced he was being dropped by Ferrari that he is focused on his own ambitions as he bids to secure a race seat for 2014. Alonso reckoned that there can be no complaints about everyone in Ferrari pushing for their own success, however. "We are trying to do our best - Felipe, me and the team - to score as many points as possible," he said. "Sometimes it is easy, and sometimes it is more difficult, especially when the performance is not super. "It is never easy when we start, or are fighting, for 7th or 8th places. It will be nice to come back to the old days at Ferrari, where we were fighting for first and second, and then decide in the races who wins. "Or do like Red Bull does - one car does two stops, one car does three stops, and they finish first and second. This is a much easier life." Massa declined to elaborate on the specifics of the team order, but did suggest the situation was not totally comfortable. "You are never happy with instructions," he said. When asked if the matter would be discussed with the team, he said: "We always discuss, for sure. "But I was happy today. It was unfortunate for the race the drive through and what has happened in the race. It was not over any instruction, he [Alonso] overtook me on the track."
Yeah, that went well ... Not everybody can see when their time is up. A family member needs to have a heart to heart. Pete
I heard from a credible source, who I cannot disclose, that discussions between Lotus and Massa's management have ended and unfortunately not in his favor. With the bold claims he has made in the press would he reconsider staying in F1 by racing on a midfield team then like Sauber/Force India? Or even a backmarker like Caterham?
Thanks for the update. From what I'm hearing Hulk can basically sign at Lotus if he wants to. It's only a $ question now
Sauber and Force India are not too bad, if he doesn't get Lotus, as claimed. If not, he should retire and head off with Webber.
Has anybody considered that he may be having micro black outs tha last less than 0.5 of a second due to his injury that has gone undetected, which is the cause of his race mistakes?