Why does it seem like Vettel is not getting the recognition that he deserves? SPOILER

It seems like most people not giving him the recognition he deserves are the ones that support the losing teams. RBR and Vettel have set a very high standard for the rest of the grid. Vettel definitely deserves recognition. He IS the best driver in F1 today, his winning streak and 4 WDC's speak for themselves.

 

Actually, he didn't just disobey team orders when he overtook Mark during multi21.....it was an arrangement they both agreed to before the race...so Multi21 was no surprise.

If he didn't like the idea, Seb shouldn't have agreed to it in the first place...that's the bit that irks me.

Having said that, it was a dumb thing to agree to considering how last year every point counted right to the end.

 

For someone who claims to follow Formula One, to not know what I was talking about when I refer to Vettel and the finger is literally amazing. He is even referred to by some as "Kid Index" on here.

Oh really?

Number one, it's Tifosi.

Number two, your posts towards me have been very condescending (insinuating that I don't know what arrogant means). What is true is that you have poor reading comprehension - I said he is disliked BECAUSE HE IS ARROGANT. Is that clear enough for you now?

The finger, his radio messages after wins, his body language (even after stealing a win from Webber) all ooze arrogance and it has put fans off in droves, hence the boos.

Then end of discussion I guess, LOL! What a joke of a thread. Can we please lock this up? There is a reason Red Bull hired a PR guy for Vettel, kizdan, it's to help him curb his arrogant behavior so he is more endeared to the fans, not that hard of a concept to understand, honestly.

 

Jealousy.

 

It was a dumb thing to agree to. It did make for a very entertaining race though.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuIe5TeBC4U]F1 Malaysia gp 2013 - Vettel vs Mark Webber Batalla completa full battle - YouTube[/ame]

 

Because few people get excited about the success of a "drinks company" rather than a real car manufacturer.

 

I think at some point, he's got to do a Schumacher, go to an underperforming team, and bring it back to winning ways, before all the talk of him winning only in a good car stops.

 

I read something earlier today, and it put all the 2010 contenders in line and who ''should've'' if it weren't for mechanical Failure. Guess what. Vettel himself! And by a serious point margin. Alonso actually benefited most from those mechanical failures everyone else was having...
http://f1stats.blog.com/2011/09/18/case-the-2010-championship-without-misfortune/

Dan, don't try...he's our F1 troll (every board must have one I suppose). You've enraged him and will never, ever win this .


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I for one like Vettel, and from his DC interview yesterday and his celebrations, made me really happy for him. He is humble, a funny, nice guy and tries to stay out of the spotlight. He even helped the bloody team pack last night. I've never heard of a driver doing this in lower classes, let alone one that just won his 4th WDC.

Everyone is nitpicking to try and find faults such as:
''the finger, the horror of the finger!'' (one he almost lost in a racing accident in F3, was almost sliced of yet 5 days later he was back in the car and got a podium I believe...)

'''aggh multi21!!!'' Everyone always moans about teamorders destroying real racing. Someone ignores it and his the anti christ.

''Yes boys, thank you, thank you'' OMG he's so irritating on the radio! I don't even want to go there it's so retarded. Is it annoying? Meh. A little. But is it enough to spout irrational hatred constantly? Lol. no.

''He only wins because of newey!!'' Webber doesn't. And he was pretty damn good at beating his teammates and all.

I could go on but getting bored.

 

Bas DC has a nice article on the BBC about Vettel today.

 

Yup, saw it on twitter .


Interestingly, if we're going by points scored without mechanical failures, Hamilton would've won last year and Alonso would be even further behind, lol. So much for Grosjean costing Alonso the title, lol

 

Trolling must mean talking sense in the bizarro world you guys live in

 

yeah lol, lol yeah man lol sure lol cool stat lol except it didnt happen lol

 

Love how you ***** and moan about this yet you spout irrational hate about Alonso in just about every thread you post in.



Oh look, a Vettel lovefest thread on F-chat

Anyone who disagrees is a troll! Bas Jaski and kizdan say so in their infinite wisdom

 

My dislike for Alonso isn't irrational though. I don't cite a finger as a reason to dislike him. I dislike him because of the ego he carries around with him in a private helicopter, how he treats others and his constant whinging about never having the best car, even when he does. And I don't bring it into every thread like you actually do.

And I don't call everyone who dislikes Vettel a troll, only you specifically, because what you are doing is trolling.

 

Complete BS. Wouldn't expect less from a hater.

You frequently refer to Alonso as a snake, low-life, etc. when I have never done anything of the sort with Vettel. In fact, I've done quite the opposite and said I think he is a top driver many times. So you constantly disparage Ferrari's lead driver on a Ferrari site, I think it's actually you that's doing the trolling.

Actually no. Someone should explain to you what trolling is.

The OP asked why Vettel isn't getting the recognition he deserves, and I told him it's because he has won all his titles in a superior car and has not gone outside his comfort zone. He then asked why people think Vettel is arrogant and I told him...the finger, his celebrations, etc. Both are legit observations.

Far from trolling. Just because I don't think the guy craps rainbows like you guys doesn't mean I am trolling the forum. Get real.

 

So, you guys don't remember Mark Webber being the big prick he was for so many years? Wow, short memories.

 

Ferrari needs to learn from failure - Stefano Domenicali | Ferrari | Formula 1 news, live F1 | ESPN F1

A far more relevant topic, post title for the driver's being sorted than Vettel

 

I disliked Alonso before he came to Ferrari, and I'm not some sort of idiot who suddenly starts idolizing someone simply because he drives for the team I support. It's called Ferrari chat, not Alonsochat.

But you do it in an obnoxious way, and immediately start berating Kizdan for asking simple questions, and berate him for not watching every sessions of F1 in the last 5 years. Trolling.

I don't think Alonso ****s rainbows (nor Vettel, for that matter), so because of that I'm a troll? Do carry on with your logic.

 

If I read this title correctly and Ferrari needs to learn from it's mistakes, Domenicali quit. That would take care of one mistake.

 

Changing a driver is one thing, the strategic piece at the track needs to be addressed as well. I think Stefano should be released along with Massa. Leadership at his level is lacking.

 

There once was an underperforming team which didn't score a single win and was on #7 in the WCC for years. Its name was Red Bull...

 

Alonso drives for Ferrari yet you troll almost every thread about how Alonso is going to implode against Kimi, etc. and gloat any time Massa manages to be faster or something bad happens to FA. Your shtick got old a long time ago, no one is buying it.

Berate? Are you kidding? Quit being such a little girl. I was simply shocked when he said he had no idea what I was referring to when I mentioned the finger. Keep in mind that the convo was perfectly civil before kizdan dropped:

...because I disagreed with him. He asked why no one likes Vettel, got told, and now apparently he can't handle it.

No, you're a troll because you're on a Ferrari site blowing and going about how great Vettel is all the time and about how big of a snake Alonso is. I hope you stick around though, your tin-hat conspiracy theories to explain away every time Kimi sucks in a race are hilarious.