Ahhh Igor - I was waiting for you all day. ...except that all the XJ220s were not sold - people seemed to care quite a bit that the car they put a deposit on got heavily diluted between the concept stage and the production stage and deposits were pulled and then lawsuits filed. Your attempt to draw a comparison fails badly, but thank you for playing. Also, you can't 'So Much Win' yourself - that the laughably-bad equivalent of giving yourself a high five. >8^) ER
If anything that goes to prove that at least Jag customers have a little dignity left on top of their better taste in the first place. P.S. Tnx for the lesson in winning
+1 I have no problem when manufacturers don't see much value in a record time at the Ring. I don't see that much value in it either. But McLaren and their fans obviously where very interested in posting a time, and than posting a time that would beat, at least, the Porsche. Obviously they failed in doing the latter. Also, no problem. But why not releasing the time set? Is it that much slower than the Porsche? The data is there and we are interested. I doubt they will sell even one less car when they just tell us. Not good.
A tarted up 12C fails to match 918 on the Ring... not a big surprise if true... Porsche is heavier, yes, but has more power more of the time(Mclaren will deplete batteries much faster), has 4WS, AWD, NA engine which doesn't need batteries for throttle response and is made by a company that has much more experience on the Ring. Atleast LaFerrari has that brilliant V12 as a sales point, I do not get the P1.
McLaren come off as poor sports IMHO. For weeks / months the go on and on that they will be fastest. They show up... they run... Then they pack up and go home... "This ringy-thingy" is silly." Seems to me the equivalent of a child taking his ball an running home whining... Not good.
Ring lap time is BS because Ferrari lost? or generally testing sports cars on race track don't have sense? I'm just curious: would you write this post if Ferrari beat all competitors?
How have Ferrari lost? If the rumoured figures are true then Porsche are the real winners and McLaren are the biggest losers. McLaren shouted from the roof tops that the P1 would be the fastest, Porsche remained quietly confident about their time and Ferrari didn't seem to take any notice. Now, tell me again who lost.
Have to agree here. You can't lose a game you've never played. The only promise I can recall Ferrari ever making about LaFerrari is that it would be their fastest ever road car. Done and done.
They did say it would do a sub 7mns lap at the ring. But as far as I know they havent tried yet. So they might still lose against their own claim (which I doubt considering an enzo is a 7.25 car and the Laf has better tires, gb, 50% more hp, same weight..).
So, McLaren decides not to publish their time (I don't mind their decision at all btw) and suddenly Ferrari is the loser? You have to love the internet...