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  1. Tcar

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    It's a longhood, so 1973 or older (unless it's a modified shorthood).

    So it would be a modified narrow body that originally had no flares.
     
  2. idart

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    #1702 idart, Nov 3, 2013
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    Another ’75 930 Turbo (Joe’s post #204) that appears to have a “25 Years Driving in its Purest Form” rear window decal. Stunning color and hopefully this 930 is a survivor.
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  3. DriveAfterDark

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    Thank you for clarifying, new term added to my Porsche dictionary. :)
     
  4. joe sackey

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    Correct!
     
  5. WPOZZZ

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    1. A 930 can be enjoyed by anyone, regardless of age. What you need to have is the right mindset to properly enjoy the car.

    2. That is Jack Olsen's RSR. It is based on a 72, but has a 3.6 motor, 930 brakes and lots of other mods.
     
  6. Tcar

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    "Shorthood" refers to the impact bumper cars beginning with 1974. Through 1989. FYI.
     
  7. CharlesE

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    sold for $100k.
     
  8. thecarreaper

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    It is possible to add the turbo suspension to an early 911? Does it just bolt in, or is there cutting, welding and bad words involved?

    I am asking as I have not seen my bastard 930 in person in a few weeks ( paint) and I am questioning if it has the 911 suspension with the 930 brakes only. ( big reds) Not the 930 swing-arms and control arms.

    Next question: Is the 930 suspension really needed on a modded car, or are the big brakes "enough". Thank you.

    I have MUCH to learn.
     
  9. onboost

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    The front suspension is a direct bolt-on.. the rear will require a mod to the pick-up points on the torsion tube if you want to use the later 930 trailing arms & 930 brakes.

    If you just want the brakes, the rear calipers can be modded to fit the standard trailing arms.. I have these on my 73 911

    In your last question, one really has nothing to do with the other.
    If you have a modded car.. then you should upgrade the suspension,, however, you don't have to use the 930 suspension as there are a number of other mods for this that will be less hassle, and not as costly as adding the 930 suspension.

    As far as brakes.. there are many options
     
  10. joe sackey

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    #1710 joe sackey, Nov 4, 2013
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    Ive seen that decal in both German & English in different places.

    061 (USA spec 1976) has it here.
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  12. thecarreaper

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    Thank you so much for the clarification. My black 930 whateveritis is a conversion based on a 74 911 tub, but has had 89 930S brakes and rotors added. They even welded in the correct 930S front firewall and master cylinders.

    Glass and sheet metal all came from an 87-89 donor. Welds are beautiful, like they used jigs. But I think the rear suspension is stock 911. Car drove fine before paint, though seems it spins the tires a bit easy even at 70mph in 3rd. Has a new LSD, maybe its just needs breaking in (5500 miles since built).

    I know Mr Sackey's thread is more for proper turbos. ( not conversion bastards like mine :eek:) )

    Thank you very much for the help. I have been reading a lot on here and on Pelican. I need to find my Rennlist password. :)
     
  13. WPOZZZ

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    The easy way to tell if it has the rear turbo suspension is the placement of the calipers. SC/Carrera has the calipers in the forward position. The turbo calipers are in the rearward position.
     
  14. joe sackey

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    Conversion bastards are very welcome to make a guest appearance from time-to-time,
    on the basis that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery :)

    All is good.
     
  15. idart

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    #1715 idart, Nov 4, 2013
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    Panning photo of Porsche 930 Turbo, S-CH 8158 in the book, “100 Jahre Porsche (100 Years of Porsche Mirrored in Contemporary History), Porsche AG, 1975.

    Photo Caption: “A new generation of Porsche cars – The Porsche Turbo.”

    “Supreme model from Porsche: the Turbo. Based on the proven 911, this fast six with exhaust gas turbo-charging represents the culmination of a successful line of development – it is quiet, safe and with a performance weight of only 9.7 lb/hp, an outspoken sprinter of a sports car. The road version offers 260, the racer 500 hp. It is a dream car, yet a realistic expression of our technical age, a fascinating machine which once again does full justice to the Porsche reputation.”
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    #1716 thecarreaper, Nov 5, 2013
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    Thank you.

    Rear calipers are in the 911 not 930 position, So it does have standard 911 rear suspension.

    I really dont like the wheels, if the car is hard to sell and I am married to it I will seek out some Ruf wheels. The Moss green Carrera and turbo are almost done.
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  17. DriveAfterDark

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    Love your RUFs!
     
  18. hyenahf

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    are the torque tubes on the late G50 different for the larger 5speed box? can you put a 930 G50 in an earlier 4 speed car?
     
  19. WPOZZZ

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    You can fit a G50 in a 4 speed 930, but you need to cut the torsion tube to fit it.
     
  20. 930

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    FWIW, the welded fender plates on the early 3.0 and 3.3 930's were not the only body difference between them and the 911 chassis. The suspensions were different (front and rear) but, they are not only just a bolt on. The two chassis' were manufactured differently.
    One change involved the front pan (in the area above the steering rack for talking purposes). The 930 pick up for the front carrier was raised almost 1 inch from that of the 911. These differences were required for front/rear suspension geometry on the two cars. Not impossible for an experienced body man to recreate with proper tooling at some expense.
     
  21. joe sackey

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    Porsche was obviously proud!
     
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  23. LARRYH

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    Please excuse my ignorance but are all 911 turbos from 1975 till 1987/8 considered to be 930s or did they also make a 911 turbo during that time frame that was other then a 930.. I consider the 930 to be one of the best looking porsches .. They are very appealing to me..
    Thanks for answering this novice question
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  24. 930

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    Larry,
    Porsche manufactured the Type 930 from 1975 to 1989. During its life you might hear it refered to as The Turbo Carrera, The Turbo or the 911 Turbo, but they were all 930's and their VIN's carried that designation.
     
  25. 9Eleven

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    I thought that in the U.S. the 930 number used in the vin stopped in 1979.
     

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