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  1. 930

    930 Formula Junior

    Jul 24, 2012
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    When the early 10 digit chassis numbers were in use thru '79, all 930 VIN's (U.S. or otherwise) started with 930xxxxxxx.

    In 1980, the numbers began using a combination of numbers and letter. The 930 was still there but the designation became broken apart (93xx0xxxxx).

    From 1981 to 1989 the modern day 17 character alpha-numeric VIN was used. The 930 type code got buried even deeper (xxxxxx93xxx0xxxxxx), but, it is there.

    So, once again, yes, all 930 years, U.S. or otherwise, 1975-1989, had the 930 type code, but, other than the early production cars, they might not be so easy to spot.
     
  2. 9Eleven

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    My point exactly. The 930 vin in that sequence disappeared after 1979.
     
  3. XR4Tim

    XR4Tim Formula 3

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    Then you could say that there's no 964, 993, 996, 997, 968, 986, etc. since their chassis codes are all determined by the 7th, 8th, and 12th digits.
     
  4. Tcar

    Tcar F1 Rookie

    That's just silly...

    So the 911 also disappeared after 79?

    And that wasn't Larry H's question anyway.
     
  5. 9Eleven

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    I am just pointing out that the vin numbers for the 75 through 79 models started with the number 930, that stopped after 1979, period. The cars didn't disappear and that isn't what I wrote. They remained a 930 until 1989, but the way it was identified in the the vin designation changed after 1979. Capiche?
     
  6. hyenahf

    hyenahf F1 Rookie

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    lots of 930 experts here... i have a question, when did they stop welding on the fenders flares and added removable rockers bisecting the rear torsion bar hole?
     
  7. 9Eleven

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    Bruce Anderson mentions the 930 welded flares in his book, “Porsche 911 Performance Handbook”: “It took Porsche quite a long time to realize that it was actually going to continue to build these wide-fendered cars indefinitely. When the factory started to produce the 930, it actually welded the fender flares onto the fender stampings as it built the cars. Finally, in 1986, the fenders for the Turbo were made as a one-piece part without the welded flares." Someone else will have to clarify the boxed rocker question.
     
  8. chover

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    They never stopped welding the flares as far as I know, and the rockers were also unchanged from 75-89 (except on special equipment versions with boxed rockers)
     
  9. Andrewo

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    #1734 Andrewo, Nov 6, 2013
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    Here is an unusual 930 I have been lucky enough to see a few times. It's a 1988 930 slant nose Cabriolet with a custom ordered white top from the collection of Vic Edelbrock. I know most Porsche people don't like the slant nose but I love all 930s, flat nose or not.
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  10. WPOZZZ

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    Speaking of Porsche, they contacted a friend and inquired if he wanted to sell his 79 turbo. I know it isn't a turbo carrera, but was kind of astonished that Porsche would contact him about buying his car. He is the original owner of the turbo, but has modded the engine. Apparently, he was offered a very large amount of money for the car and he refused to sell.
     
  11. idart

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    #1736 idart, Nov 7, 2013
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    Another photo of 1975 930 Turbo, No. 20 that placed 15th at the 1975 Le Mans race (from the book, “Porsches at Le Mans”). The photo shows a Carrera RSR mirror was mounted on the passenger door of No. 20. The book provides a comprehensive listing of all Porsches entered in Le Mans from 1951 to 1984 and includes all race weights. In race trim (aux driving lights, roll cage, front oiler cooler, etc.) No. 20 weighed in at just 1148 Kg (2,531 lbs) for the 24 hour race (just 60 pounds more than 934’s entered at the 1976 Le Mans). No. 20 was the only 3 liter 930 ever entered at Le Mans and it’s 15th placing would stand (for 930’s) until 1983 when six 3.3 liter 930’s were entered in Group B - one finishing in 11th place.
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  12. WPOZZZ

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    How are you guys finding all these pics?
     
  13. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

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    Research and a lot of patience!
     
  14. thecarreaper

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    #1739 thecarreaper, Nov 8, 2013
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    Paint work progress: Final buffing and waxing in progress. Glass, headliner, sunroof guts going back in, then the new carpet set.

    Removed the whale tail from my 84 Carrera. Going to have the rear engine lid and quarters blended and painted, and have no tail.
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  15. tonypeoni

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    #1740 tonypeoni, Nov 8, 2013
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    So what does this indicate? This is a 79 BTW. I know this thread is for 3.0 cars but would appreciate the help.
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  16. hyenahf

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    #1741 hyenahf, Nov 8, 2013
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    nope i had and 86 the rockers are completely different from the early cars. when you remove them they bisect the hole for the torsion tube for stamped rear fenders.

    ive seen in the flesh a 83 ROW car this the old style rockers when you remove them the standard torsion bar hole was still a full circle.

    so i know for sure the early welded on cars went at least to 83. i prefer the earlier cars.
     
  17. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

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    Lots of good discussion, but it would be nice if we could get back to the 1975 to 1977 930s which is what this thread is about, thanks!
     
  18. rynoshark

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    These are the ECE European Commission safety approvals for the car. Porsche starting putting these into the door jam for rest-of-world delivered 911/930 in 1975. So these are also found on rest-of-world 3.0-liter Turbos. I'm not sure exactly when they stopped. I had thought in 1978 but looks like they still had them in 1979.

    Replacement ECE decals can be found at 930 Turbo: Store, though the codes may not match perfectly for every year as different codes were used in different years.
     
  19. idart

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    #1744 idart, Nov 10, 2013
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  20. WPOZZZ

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    Is the 1.5 bar boost gauge stock? My car has that same gauge and I always wondered about it. My 79 and 86 had 1 bar gauges.
     
  21. 930

    930 Formula Junior

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    Yes - 1977 only.
     
  22. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

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    Fantastic. Thank you for your continued research & sharing, you are creating a very special resource here!
     
  23. idart

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    #1748 idart, Nov 11, 2013
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  25. onboost

    onboost Formula Junior

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    Have to agree with Joe here.. excellent discussions but we should move it off to maybe the 79 (and 78 thread) and keep this one tracking on 1975 to 1977 930s.

    Regards,
     

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