Which would be worse? Vettel WDC 2015 or V6 Turbo

People really think Seb will beat Michael's records? Lol.

Not that he can't, but it kills me when people act as though it is a certainty or just a matter of time. He would STILL essentially need to have the entire career of Alain Prost even to tie MS.

 

One German drove for Ferrari, another German has not (yet).

Champions driving in red are somehow always more loveable. It's not logical.

All the best,
Andrew.

 

Flat 6 engine may be called H-6, but that's a mistake, technically speaking.

A H-engine is made of 2 flat engine cranked together on the same case (one on top of the other).

Two flat-twin like on the Brough H-4, two flat-8 like on the BRM H-16, or two flat-12 on the Napier Sabre.

 

Heh didn't know that, but regardless Porsches are H6s.

 

Porsche engines may be called H6 in common parlance, but they are not; they are just horizontally-opposed engine, which means flat-6.
They are sometimes mistakently called boxer engine too, but they are not.

 

There are ways to make a flat 6 that are not horizontally opposed in architecture.
Horizontally opposed means that the pistons move opposite, both reaching TDC at the same time. That is each con rod has a unique journal bearing on the crank.
A flat six can be made in Boxer architecture where a pair of con rods share a journal
bearing.

 

A flat engine is an internal combustion engine with multiple pistons that move in a horizontal plane. Typically, the layout has cylinders arranged in two banks on either side of a single crankshaft and is sometimes known as the boxer, or horizontally opposed engine.

Boxer engines got their name because each pair of pistons moves simultaneously in and out rather than alternately, like boxers clashing their gloved fists together before a fight. Boxer engines have proved to be highly successful with up to eight cylinders in automobiles and up to six cylinders in motorcycles, and they continue to be popular for light aircraft engines.

An H engine (or H-block) is an engine configuration in which the cylinders are aligned so that if viewed from the front, they appear to be in a vertical or horizontal letter H.
An H engine can be viewed as two flat engines, one atop or beside the other. The "two engines" each have their own crankshaft, which are then geared together at one end for power-take-off. The H configuration allows the building of multi-cylinder engines that are shorter than the alternatives, sometimes delivering advantages on aircraft. For race-car applications there is the disadvantage of a higher center of gravity, not only because one crankshaft is located atop the other, but also because the engine must be high enough off the ground to allow clearance underneath for a row of exhaust pipes. The power-to-weight ratio is not as good as simpler configurations employing one crankshaft. There is excellent mechanical balance, especially desirable and otherwise difficult to achieve in a four-cylinder engine.[1]

 

To resume, Porsche engines are flat-6.

Some have been flat-6 boxer, but most are just flat-6 at 180 degree.
It depends if the rods share the same crank journals or not, meanis if the pistons move in opposite direction or in unison.

But they are definitely NOT H-6 !!

 

I wish a team would send the FIA's head spinning by running a few practice laps with the old Frankenstein fuel from the '80s turbo era.

 

Lol, ok.

 

Instead of just pissing on others opinions, and the truth, how about going into more detail regarding your view?

 

How did I piss on his opinion? Porsche engines are frequently referred to as horizontally opposed 6s, or H6s, which means the pistons and cylinders are arranged in a horizontal plane and in opposition to one another with three pistons on each side turning a central crankshaft. Some Subaru and Volkswagen engines also horizontally opposed, but these are flat fours.

Flat-six engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

H6 is just another way of saying the same thing...I laughed because he is arguing semantics. Get off my back.

 

I already know all that and I am not "on your back" I'm just calling you out based upon your keyboard "warrior" antics. How about we get back to the original topic?

 

So you ask me to expound on my opinion and when I do you demand I get back on topic? Can you say trying too hard?

Seriously, I've done nothing wrong in this thread so you should probably stop following me around "calling me out" before you embarrass yourself further. Thanks.

 

Speaking of keyboard warriors... knock it off, Gregg. These guys were just having a good technical discussion until you jumped in there trying to take his head off.

All the best,
Andrew.

 

Subaru's engines are also flat-4 and flat-6, boxer. And the biggest one at that
the one at the back of the Coloni F1, back in 1990. It was big and heavy though.

 

Sorry Andrew and my apology TifosiUSA, please carry on.

 

Mercedes just announced their new engines last 5,280km and they have been in the final testing stage for a while. These engines are supposed to last 4000km. This is quite a move by them and would be quite embarassing to see one blow......

 

It's all good man

 

Big news if true...

MB v. Ferrari 2014

 

No more Vettel! Done with Red Bull in gereral too. May Adrian Newey design an undriveable dog for the next ten years!

 

Thanks Gregg.

All the best,
Andrew.