07836 Value?

Which I think, with the right buyer, is right on the money.

 

I would love finding another basket case, as long as it is 99.5% complete...

Realistically speaking, the car will be worth whatever the buyer will pay, and I would shoot for someone not on Dino chat,
then the value will be at its highest.

Remember? Just as when someone's better half wants that "pretty little car" no matter what.

Regards, Alberto

 

I find it vaguely annoying that, periodically, and due to the recent huge upturn in Dino prices, people will post that they are looking for a perfect Dino (cost no object), but that it must be 100% original (the Holy Grail of Ferrari Classiche). These cars are all now about 40 years old, and it is unrealistic to think that any of them will meet a particular individual's idea of virginal perfection (original color, leather vs. vinyl interior, etc.). Omgjon configured his GTS (the first of its kind, but now one of many, thanks mainly to his efforts) to appeal to HIS ideal, as was his right. People are free to act as professional automobile appraisers, but my belief is that the market is free--offer what you like, buy what you like, then do with your eventual purchase what you will. Rather than throw out an appropriate asking price, I prefer to thank omgjon for his contribution to the preservation of Dinos in general, and their newly-found high esteem in particular. If you were to make a visit to the 458 forum, you would find numerous threads dealing with "speccing" of new cars under Ferrari's Atelier program, which is an expansion of its earlier Scaglietti personalization program. It's a boon for individual-minded new car purchasers, and a great revenue enhancer for Ferrari. When the subject is forty-year old Dinos, an old adage applies, paraphrased as "a good Dino is where you find it." I wouldn't presume to tell omgjon what his Dino is worth, but I am happy to salute him as a fellow Dino lover. He has lived the ultimate Dino dream: he did it "his way." Forza Dino! Fred

 

I am amazed that it isnt sold already!.........it may not be for a purist but i bet you would struggle to find a better sorted car or such a pretty one (well one for sale that is!) over your side of the pond.

 

100% 'original' or not...its drop dead gorgeous. Wow.

 

Fred.

He asked us to toss prices out there. That is going to elicit many comments and prices, which I think is what Jon was looking for.

In the end, of course he's going to try and sell it for whatever he wants, but why not ask a room full of armchair experts what it might be worth, because in the end it's worth whatever that particular buyer is willing to pay on that particular day.

And, having done a restoration on a Dino, I can tell you it can be done for less than $200K with pretty spectacular results. Now, my car is in the good hands of UroTrash, so you can ask him, but I think it's still looking pretty good, and running well, several years later. And no BS, I spent under $100K restoring it at the time, (6-7 years ago) including a rebuilt engine and transmission, suspension and brakes, completely new interior, and bare metal respray with plenty of metal work.

I think Jon does beuatiful work, but I would never have done to my car what he did to his, and I think by his own admission, he wouldn't do it again, either.

D

 

Do not underestimate yourself..
You talk with insecurity in your voice.
The documentation will overide the alterations..
There are no grey area's with this car..
high 300's is too low..
sit tight.

Of the 5 dino's I owned, all sold for more than I expected..

 

Dave, I didn't mean to impugn any of the Dino posters who responded to omgjon's query. I was referring more to the fact that people who know very little about a particular car, Dino or otherwise, often start a thread as if they were connoisseurs of the marque, in search of an example worthy of their exalted taste ("I'm only interested in an original flairs-and-chairs GTS, in Rosso Corsa"). It's just my opinion that they're not being very realistic, and sound more like Pebble Beach Concours judges than someone looking desperately for a fine specimen of an old car. It makes me feel as though we, as Dino owners, are mere caretakers until one of these "moneybags" deigns to come along with "all the money in the world for the perfect car." I had one of my Dinos repainted, after a bare-metal strip, in a non-Dino Ferrari color. According to some people, I should be shot. Live and let live, I say. I enjoy my Dinos, and have no plans to sell either of them, but I wouldn't have much patience with someone who criticized their originality. That's the main thrust of what I was trying to say. I respect your valuation opinion, and hope that you were not offended in any way. Fred

 

Here's the math:

Donor car=a

Resto=b

Ability to buy the car right now and not wait years to find the donor and years to do the resto=c

a+b+c=value of car.

We know about what "a" and "b" are but "c" is the wildcard people are ignoring.

 

it wont rust out in 20 years, ho much is that worth?

 

True.

Value of getting it exactly as you wan or confidence in how it's done, less any changes/or annoyances from the purchased resto not bring exactly what you want (color, flares, whatever...), call it d

a + b + c - d = value.

Hopefully, c outweighs d.

And then subtract any freshness issue.

Attractive car.

 

The problem with that theory is that basket cases are getting scarcer to find. Many are restoring them to top condition making the average Dino no longer in average condition. In the 70's and 80's many of the GT version were scrapped when crashed and removed from the gene pool.

These cars are recognized for being the true tribute to Enzo's only son along with the fact that Pininfarina declared the Dino is one of their top designs of all time added to the practicality of it being a vintage Ferrari that truly can be driven. When they break there are fewer parts than the vintage 12 cylinders to replace and there is a cottage industry of suppliers for Dino specific parts, all which add to the attraction and sustainability.

And here it is.
One of the fairest and best equipped independent Ferrari and vintage race shops in California:
DINO FOR SALE - Cavallo Motorsports - Specializing in Ferrari in North County San Diego

 

Agree. Your math is tight.

 

I think where it is priced, that level of work couldn't be duplicated. I look forward to the watching a new blue Dino come to life.

 

I totally agree with this. this car is more than dm n stuff is trying to pedal for jon.

this is a GREAT car and I would think is easily goes for north of $400....well north!

 

My advise for what its worth is a auction, advertise it well and any interested serious person/s will bid on it and may go well beyond "the estimate"

What is a high price? I guess its what people are not prepared to pay for it, simarily a low price is too many buyers scrabbling for the deal.

If you pitch it too high then it wont sell regardless of how good it is and it will then get a stigma to it and everybody will wait for the price to fall...human nature.

auction, quick simple and the most effective price structure.

I personally think Dave is correct in his analysis too.

 

which blue is this GTS?

 

Blu Dino Metallizzatto 106-A-72

 

Well there you have it.

Ultimately, the market will determine the value, as it always does.

Jon, when it's all over, if you're comfortable with it, please post the final selling price.

D

 

Congratulations Jon on the sale and on the new purchase. I'm sure the new Dino owner will be VERY happy.

All the best,

 

excellent! both the outgoing and new comer are stunning! Congrats

 

Congratulations. What a great lovely office you work in every day!

Hopefully I wil see the Dino around SB.

Best

Ak