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  1. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    #401 Napolis, Oct 10, 2013
    The styling themes we are wrestling with for SCG 003 and SCG 003C are trying to make something that is classically beautiful but very efficient aerodynamically. The extremes of that scale are curvey 60's sports cars like our P 3/4 and a Jaguar XKE and a Hypertechnical Audi LMP1. We're also trying for something that is a stand alone design not an Hommage. Thoughts?
     
  2. Devilsolsi

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  3. Napolis

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    #403 Napolis, Oct 10, 2013
    Interesting to note Fins.
     
  4. [gTr]

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    #404 [gTr], Oct 10, 2013
    Very excited to hear this!!! There was a time for 60s and 70s design, the 60s and 70s.....
    I hope you guys push the envelope and create something fast, yet beautiful. Luckily you will not be forced to slap weird looking headlights on one of the most beautiful cars made in a long time (Alfa 4C) by accountants.
     
  5. merstheman

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    #405 merstheman, Oct 10, 2013
    The design you showed me when I visited was quite pretty. I would try to shy away from the fenders like on the P1 cars and the Veneno, where the aero is speaking loudest and the car ends up looking almost like an F1 car with hats on the wheels.

    First thing I'd do is look up all the best looking but also most aerodynamically efficient small cars that have come out in the past 50, 60 years. Take inspiration from Abarth, Osca, the Alfa TZ's... Cars that were small but packed a punch. I happen to love the TZ2 and if I remember you had some of Spada's drawings for it up on the wall in your garage.
     
  6. Napolis

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    #407 lambchop, Oct 14, 2013
    Guiding Stylistic Principle, WWMD (What Would McQueen Drive?). Excited to see this project unfold.
     
  8. Napolis

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    #408 Napolis, Oct 14, 2013
    :)
     
  9. Napolis

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    #409 Napolis, Oct 15, 2013
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  11. Napolis

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    #411 Napolis, Oct 15, 2013
  12. Napolis

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    #412 Napolis, Oct 17, 2013
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWUpaNBb5Gs]Horror Museum Part 1 - YouTube[/ame]





    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nlkDoECWp8]Horror Museum part 2 - YouTube[/ame]
     
  13. merstheman

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    #413 merstheman, Oct 17, 2013
    Great videos of Paolo. Interesting stories! He has really been involved with a lot of cool cars.
     
  14. Napolis

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  15. Drive550PFB

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    #415 Drive550PFB, Oct 24, 2013
    I don't know Ellen, but Sam is a true gentleman; a man of character; a Renaissance man.

    I also had the pleasure of buying lunch for David Hobbs when he was in town--I literally bumped into him in a bookstore. He is a walking encyclopedia.

    The photo is great.
     
  16. Napolis

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    #416 Napolis, Nov 15, 2013
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    Things are moving along. Remember when I talked about using GPS in P 4/5 C to let the car know at what exact corner it was and when the driver went to 100% braking armed the KERS so that when the driver came out of the turn he got 4 seconds of KERS boost the next time he went to 100% throttle?

    The place you have to go is to the race car show in Cologne. You can really learn a lot. What if you learned that what we did has been refined by Porsche and BMW to change the TC and anti skid for EVERY corner based on GPS?

    Truth in engineering...

    Our TTV6 is developing nicely. Styling is moving along and I'm very happy with it. What an adventure.
     
  17. jcosta79

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    #417 jcosta79, Nov 15, 2013
    That's awesome. The things that people can think up can boggle the mind. :D
     
  18. Napolis

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    #418 Napolis, Nov 20, 2013
    Great styling meeting! I'm very happy and excited. Gave my input and big aero meeting on Friday.

    We should be moving to wind tunnel models soon.

    Engine Development coming along nicely.

    Engineering progressing.
     
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    #419 e46m3, Nov 20, 2013
    Hi Jim! Was looking through some of my photos from Monterey, and spotted something in this one of you speaking with FS in the McLaren hospitality tent. That computer render wouldn't happen to have something to do with this project, would it?

    http://i.imgur.com/hjhtEja.jpg - link to photo, can't embed for some reason.
     
  20. Napolis

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    #420 Napolis, Nov 20, 2013
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    It does.
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  21. Napolis

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    #421 Napolis, Nov 22, 2013
    Very good Engineering/Design meeting. Aerodynamicists, engineers and designers are working well together on looks, mechanical components, packaging and aero. We're really excited. Teaser being worked on.
     
  22. NeuroBeaker

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    #422 NeuroBeaker, Nov 22, 2013
    Oooh... :)

    So does that make this the teaser for the teaser? :D

    All the best,
    Andrew.
     
  23. Napolis

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    #423 Napolis, Nov 22, 2013
  24. Napolis

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    #424 Napolis, Dec 3, 2013
    Things are really coming together nicely. Our major challenge is melding LMP1 with GT in a way that works well on our race version and looks good on our road version.

    exciting times...
     
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    #425 NeuroBeaker, Dec 3, 2013
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    I saw some of your Facebook updates...


    I knew about Newey's x2014, but this is the first I've ever seen anything of the Allard J2X (images attached) - what a cool looking car! Is this the direction you're going in? :)

    All the best,
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