It is the same engine in the Gallardo and they make similar torque. I doubt the torque will be that much higher.
Hmm the the replacement is supposed to put down a similar 0-60 and quarter to a 458 with all wheel drive, so how does the car not weigh more than the 458? If it is same wieight and all wheel drive. The times should smoke a 458. They should be sub 3.
I dont see it happening if the all wheel drive version isnt going to put down numbers that beat the 458. I think this car is not going to be as light as people think. If you have more horsepower and all wheel drive and weigh the same as a 458, it should be smoking it in times. I think rear wheel will be lighter but still if the all wheel drive cant beat the 458 in numbers, how do you expect the rear wheel drive to?
If I analyze the Cabrera basic parameters the car will beat the 458, latest on track. Pure acceleration: More torque and same weight: the Cabrera will pull away latest from 100km/h. On track: More torque, same weight and rear wheel drive: the car will be more agile to drive than in the past, will be at least equal to the 458 in driving behavior. And then, in the sectors where engine power is needed, the Cabrera will eat the 458. Neutral considered: the cabrera is the more performant car. And to compare the Cabrera with the Speciale is not fair. This should be done with the new Superleggera.
Well.... maybe! No biggie. Let's take it down an notch and we'll all be great friends. We all have opinions on good and bad design. There is no right or wrong answer.
You want to say that about the speciale, than its unfair to compare this car to the 458 at all considering the competitor will be the 458 replacement. Honestly That car would not eat the 458 if it weighs the same. The horsepower advantage it has is not great. I dont think Lamborghini has developed a car that will destroy the 458. I see a car that will be close to the 458 but I bet the 458 will still beat it in certain aspects.
...not destroy, but being faster. Why are you so strongly fixed to the 458 when the facts say otherwise? The world is turning continuously. Soon comes the 458 successor and will be then probably superior against the Cabrera. Who cares, all these cars are horny!
Lambo in recent years make great progress in handling and its can finally be competitive on the track
I doubt it beats it in any objective aspects. The 458 is old now and in a year or two the replacement will be out and the 458 will be what the 430 is now -- far behind. There is far more to a car than how much power it is. There have been cars with more power and less weight for years, but they aren't the top dogs.
If the F458 successor is turbocharged like some suggest, than Cabrera will have one big selling point regardless of it being slower or faster than the competition, as it will remain one of the last remaining naturally aspirated supercars. Lambo have said they will remain strictly NA engined and focus on lowering weight.
What facts? Has Lambo released any performance data? Or are you just making assumptions? One would expect a 2014 Lamborghini to outperform a 2009 Ferrari anyway. In 2014 or 2015 a new 458 will change the game once again! On a side note, I expect the 458 replacement to be normally aspirated also.
The next Gallardo and 458 replacement will be of the same generation and most likely be very comparable performance-wise. The 458 is actually of the same generation as the LP560s. Both came out around 2009. Aside from the DCT and different driving characteristics, they are quite comparable in performance. While the LPs were perhaps not 100% next-gen with respect to the original, it was much more than a face lift.
I like that Lamborghini don't follow turbo trend, I wonder is possible for Lambo to steal some customers from Ferrari if Gallardo successor will have RWD option and 458 succesor will be turbocharged
in may 2013 CEO Amedeo Felisa hinted that the next 458 will lose a couple of cylinders Next Ferrari 458 Italia could ditch its V8 for a turbocharged V6 | Digital Trends
I can imagine that even Lamborghini will come with turbocharging. The mother VAG/Audi relies completely on turbocharging. In addition: V10 engines are no longer trendy, it is (and was always) a compromise between V8 and V12. I suspect Audi will separate this engine-type in the medium term (see BMW with its V10).
Lamborghini CEO stated last year they will not use FI engines in the next 10 years. The main focus will be losing weight. Except R8, which is basically Gallardo in a drag, Audi doesn't use any V10s anymore. BUT... since all Audi gasoline V6, V8 and V10 are of the same modular design, it probably isn't too costly to continue producing V10 as long as they need it. The other option is a clean sheet design like thy did with the Aventador V12(that doesn't share any major components with any other VAG engine).
